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Water injection in thermal engines and the famous "pantone engine". General informations. Press clippings and videos. Understanding and scientific explanations on the injection of water into engines: ideas for assemblies, studies, physico-chemical analyzes.
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by Rabbit » 30/01/06, 22:00

Could a stering motor be used in this competition?
By using the heat of the exhaust they could recover
energy by running a stiring motor. If the motor
still emits too much heat, it may be possible
store it in water or even fuel (less efficient
anyway).
If there is only one engine authorized, do everything with a stiring.
may not be very powerful at startup, but once launched
it should last over time. which is the goal.
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by bob_isat » 31/01/06, 14:48

well no it's not too much the duration we are aiming for:

A 'run' lasts only 20 minutes, during which we consume a miserable amount of fuel and after the judges report the amount consumed to the distance that we could have traveled with 1 Liter ...

As for recovering the heat, I don't think there is a way:
the engine is ignited in sequences of 2 to 4 minutes over one revolution, the rest being freewheeling ...

It is therefore caulked to death so as not to (too) cool between 2 relights

As for the energy lost to the exhaust, it is also a misery

For stirling, you need a permanent hot spring right?

and then there should be enough torque to launch the suppository at the start of the run ...
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by Asgard bone tyr » 31/01/06, 18:49

For stirling, you don't need a constant hot source, if you emit a cold source when you reduce the hot source !!! : Idea:
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by Rabbit » 31/01/06, 19:15

In fact the idea was to launch with a heat engine like
to dress and maintain the movement with a stirling.
That would make 2 engines in all, but we will have the advantage of 2
One for its power, the other for its performance.
The stirling could be powered either by the heat of
the exhaust of the engine when starting, i.e.
by a blowtorch which will provide the necessary heat for the continuation.
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by Asgard bone tyr » 31/01/06, 19:41

The idea is interesting, but the problem may be on the thermal insulation part. the cold part of the stirling that heats up quickly and that's where it stalls, otherwise a cooler Well designed !!! : Cheesy:
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by bob_isat » 01/02/06, 09:23

a blowtorch : Shock: ...

and how do you design a torch powered by a 50 mL tank of gasoline?

For the heat of the exhaust gases, I can assure you that there is no bezzef ...
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by Christophe » 01/02/06, 09:37

One solution: solar stirling :D but I have a doubt about the negative influence of the parabola on the SCx of the vehicle : Cheesy:
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by Rabbit » 01/02/06, 11:05

As for the torch, it looks like a kind of lighter.
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