Iron or stainless steel for pantone reactor?

[zac]

hello everyone!
Stem story, I tested that steel !!!
For nickel; chrome and other think that where we are at the level of the protos, we do not need to sprend the head with ts these stuff!
AC steel works is the cheapest it strikes everywhere in 6M or fall! And then an objective analysis of the various metalsa use, is not yet to our reach! (each in his corner)

Hello

finally someone who thinks (like me) that effective rhymes with simplicity.
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[Other]

Hello
I just found after shopping a bar of 12,7mm in inconel 600
This material contains 76% nickel 15,8% chromium and 7.2% iron
this is sold at 12 inches (32 $) it is rare to find the seller does not keep this in stock it is used mainly in the aeronautics industry.
I have more than to try I do not expect miracles
with this product, I would have wanted a larger diameter but not available or special order, it is necessary to buy the complete length.
On this subject I think like ZAC and KÉVIN, but since some vaunt the qualities of the nickel and even the manufacturers of kit SPAD
I will go through this question, then something else .. (by passing this material is not magnetic, unlike the piece of nickel pure nickel)
For my 20mm rod a front shock absorber rod of Jetta is exactly 20mm and it is chrome, with a nice centering end ..
I'm starting to be well done on those who made nickel fixtures, I'm in the nickel producing country and I'm having trouble finding a bar, I'm wondering where to get the hardware and what price? I do not speak of stainless steel, that there is everywhere at prices derisoirs ..


Andre

[denis]

hello andré, what is the easiest, it is still to make the bare to the wanted dimension, and then to make it nikelé by a "box" which makes the surface treatments: advantage of magnetization + anti corosion and other virtues unknown?
it should be tried normal to see where cut, then treat again Km test! the advantage should be the price, because little Ni on the bare and small surface treated.

[Other]

Hello Denis
Make nickle thick and put a layer of copper before. but all this handling is a lot for little.
The bar I currently have in the Chevrolet gasoline is a 12,7mm stainless steel tube with a hammer hammer
I have more confidence in this than a surface treatment, which risks with heat to peel and be eaten by the engine
With this assembly the differrence is minimal compared to a rectified steel rod. I wanted to have the magnetic side and the stainless side, But with back I wonder if it is worth all this work pain..i there is other parameter that influences the performance of doping water ..
by the time someone says that a platinum or tungsten rod is better! at one point it takes some serious tests to prove that, the first thing is to make it work best with ordinary materials or easy to get, then without changing anything, just the same size rod, see if it there is something measurable. For me if I can not positively measure a differrence, I do not waste time in this way, otherwise we will go around in circles.

And as I repeat 30% saving only on major trips, it does not satisfy me at all, it will take better
and especially in urban use to make it interesting.

Andre

[lau]

Hello
I just found after shopping a bar of 12,7mm in inconel 600
This material contains 76% nickel 15,8% chromium and 7.2% iron
Andre

Hi Andrew!

I would love to see your head if you achieve spectacular savings results with this new bar that has "only" 76% of Ni.
Especially if it's the case tell me, I have a 20mm 200 nickel bar waiting for the "modest" amount of 247 € excluding VAT not included!

[JLS]

Hello,

Asgard says:

"AC steel works is the cheapest it strives everywhere in 6M or fall! And then an objective analysis of the various metalsa use, is not elas yet to our port!

Well yes, I understand your point of view, but it seems difficult to get an objective and quantifiable result with his car on a full or two with city or highway, especially since it is expensive and long to experiment.

If you start from a small oil burner assembly (impressive!) As did Mr. DAVID (see Quanthomme site) or mounted on a small generator, exchange rods and performance tests must be much more affluent and realistic, for a reduced cost of time and supplies.

Have there not been to your knowledge plans of experience likely to objectively enlighten the funky DIYers who randomly compile a multitude of parameters crossed on a "unique" montage.

Sorry, I may not have worked the question enough, but I did not find much of a very scientific analysis of the results while some of them are "stellar" in terms of performance and worthy of to be studied more finely.

I work in BE on "proto" machines where tests are often necessary. It is not forbidden to believe in its good star, but by experience, the factor "luck" although not negligible should not overshadow the need for analysis.

I have trouble today to "build" a project based on what I could glean in experiments "Pantone"

But it's really interesting!

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J-Luc

[Asgard bone tyr]

we can have results on the power bench, in less than a minute!
I spent three protos, and each time we could see differences conso and poll!
it is necessary in my opinion, keep tools and the simplest device in the world !!! for it to be reproducible locally and artisanally!
it is true that we can find a lot of editing and testing very interesting, the problem is that no one or almost does not go to the bench and so we must be proud of the good word of each! who knows how to recognize the throttle pedal power of the couple !!!)
the worst is that but attempt to test the protos of others we failed (the collective wide) !!! to believe that can, we want it finally out of the shadows!

[JLS]

I renew my question:

Can someone give me an example (s) of quantified experimentation, simple, reproducible, able to serve as a basis of work for the development of an experimental plan?

Another question :

Has anyone tried to store GEET gas?

Besides the risk of being "fooled" with a super fuel of this kind, it would open an interesting path for all that runs intermittently (burner) or requires a good recovery or cold start (car engine)

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[zac]

I renew my question:

Has anyone tried to store GEET gas?


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Hello

May be possible but without any interest. I explain it produces the gas "geet" when the engine is high load and we need it, if we have to load the engine to produce only gas, it burns conso to consomer less later (stupid is not it).

I try to make an intermediate chamber with valves between the pantone and the ADM, it does not work (valve closed = no depression, open valve = pantone with loss of efficiency)

You can test with an 1.9l renault (clio old generation) water doping, iron core 13.5x150, 15 / 21 tube, 10 carbide, 12 / 14 copper tube up to ADM good insulation of the exhaust at the reactor level, wind turbines entering ADM.

You will see instant winnings and continuous improvement up to about XNUMxhour (after the result stabilizes).

Tell my girlfriend that you remove her pantone (she has no bench), and she tears your eyes.
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[bolt]

Have there not been to your knowledge plans of experience likely to objectively enlighten the funky DIYers who randomly compile a multitude of parameters crossed on a "unique" montage.

Sorry, but I did not find much of a very scientific analysis of the results while some of them are "stunning" in terms of performance and worthy of being studied more finely.

I work in BE on "proto" machines where tests are often necessary. It is not forbidden to believe in its good star, but by experience, the factor "luck" although not negligible should not overshadow the need for analysis.

I have trouble today to "build" a project based on what I could glean in experiments "Pantone"

Good evening
myself, I do not know in which direction to glean the best tricks, iron, stainless steel, nickel, bubbler, booster heated by the coolant.
There are probably systems that work, still need to test them when they walk, since apparently it does not work all the time
The meager tests I was able to do worry me a lot
I used them on systems that normally gave very good results in the economy generated, the equipment used for these systems, we had nothing to complain about (stainless steel bubbler, reactor supplied by spad), many ex. in photos on the site chtipantone (vulcano)
The very good results announced were by the owners of the tested tractors: the FIAT 110-90 which is mentioned in the press review, and the 2eme which here are the results of the test bench:




Yet I had thought carefully to conduct the test protocol to ensure to highlight when and under what conditions the pantone worked: full load tests, different partial loads, and empty

Comments are welcome

But in your place, I will still take a step back from all those who announce results very enviable

Do like me: go check on site

bolt