pantone process

[pluesy]

Completely agree with you André I think that to start you have to get your hands on a small engine (here we find small new generator sets of 2kw for around 200 euros in supermarkets) the advantage of the generator group is that we can easily vary the load and measure the consumption on a car this is less obvious ...
the downside is that it is often single-cylinder and that it sucks only 1/4 of the time since the pantone requires a good depression is not the foot on this side but good mister pantone started with!
So walking in his footsteps we will have to achieve a certain result ....

[Other]

Hello pluesey

The inconvenience that you speak, for me it is not rather an advantage
it is a disadvantage when the engine runs below 1000RPM, but at 3000 RPM for 50HZ and 3600 for 60hz at home
this is an advantage, just extend the carburetor inlet by a certain length of tube (calculated or by test) and the pulsating input results in better filling, and greater velocity on the rod.
the reactor works very well with fuel oil.

Andre

[gil67]

André,
Everyone does their best.
For four years I have taken care of other things, including the ultra light chassis, the satellite dish, the passive house, natural cosmetics with the establishment of a short chain for oils in fair trade, my son, my wife, my job and more.
sorry to have flattened the discussion, ...
I didn't understand your two-ball humor, sorry.

Everyone can contribute in one way or another. You have time to do your experiments, I have to work to feed my family, moreover I also worked on the editing for the hvb.

Do you take us for nazes or what? we all know the price of a barrel, and everyone here knows that we are cash cows.
If I want to try the experiment on the v8, it is because it is equipped with LPG and that I have it on hand.

Another thing, I also spent my time chasing big polluters ... but that's another story

Regarding the pantone, I will not have fun trying an experiment to validate David's work, what interests me is to go further. I'm not going to have fun inventing a TV if I can buy it from CORA, so we're not going to have fun baking bread just to prove that the baker is right. That's my opinion. So I started from what is validated and I made my contribution. As for the editing, I can only do it during the summer holidays when I work a little less, but for two years there is each time something else to do.
So again sorry not to be like you, but I'm still relatively young compared to you, so all the time to become like you.
Sp ... made things happen more than tried and missed experiences.
I'm also not going to jump for joy because I manage to run an engine with oil vapor.
I lowered the consumption of my big diesel by 30% just by installing a good intercooler and optimizing the injectors, if I add in addition the hvb, the initial pollution was reduced by almost 50%.

I did not think that you had to provide your handyman CV Pantone to have the right to post. I break

[zac]

Hello
gil67 not worth sulking it does not advance the smilblic
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zac

[rezut]

hello gil67

do not get angry, André is not in the habit of disparaging anyone and even less saying bad things or insulting
if you took it like that it's a shame
stay with us on the subject and bring your ideas without telling others if they are right or wrong without having yourself try
personally I just share my editing and give the little idea that I have and that I will have (I always have one in reserve but I wait to be able to make it before I share it with you)
because I prefer to pass for a draw all alone at the bottom of my garage than to be roomed on the forum

so see you soon on forum and if you go down in the south you can stop when you want to see and talk about my editing (I'm on the holiday road because 15km from the A6)

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[pluesy]

ok thanks for the tip andré in fact it's like in electronics you have to put a condo to regulate the flow and tune it all at the right frequency ...

I bought the elements to build a pantone but it is not yet assembled I have a bx 1600 cc fueled and I wanted to try some small experiments before assembly to have an efficient system
one of his experiences is the following to drill a hole in the intake pipe just under the carburetor connect the pantone outlet as input connect a steam generator (pressure cooker, steam cleaner) as an exhaust gas plugged in an electric heat gun on the exhaust inlet l
the purpose of the quantified maneuver the energy necessary for the proper functioning of the system; my steam cleaner is 2000w my heat gun 2000w also
so we can inject up to 4000w into the system "virtually" by precisely quantifying the energy injected (measurement by watmetre or multimeter) by letting the engine idle then plugging in this virtual pantone we should accelerate the idle we note the regime, then we measure the consumption at idle without pentone then repeat a measurement at the same regime noted with the virtual pantone but without pantone ...
with this system we should be able to precisely determine the energies involved and the quantity of fuel replaced
I think what is missing to make the pantone take off is the lack of measurement
me when I troubleshoot a tv I make measurements there are obviously things that we cannot measure without an adequate device but in this case there is generally always a hack to do or a roundabout way of making the measurement (at help other measures for example).
here I have not yet tried the experience if above but if someone has the means to go faster than me let us share the results ...

[Other]

Hello Pluesy

Put steam directly into the tubing, it is a test to do, many have tried, me not on an exclusive water doping car engine, but on a small assembly 100% panton + steam and I do have not sucked with superheated steam
but the conditions are different with an engine exclusively doping with water, I learned it recently, if those which tried directly steam either in the reactor or in the intake manifold could speak about it we will not know any more. ..

Now check by an increase in idling on a gasoline engine that does not mean anything, the slightest entry of steam or air + steam under a carburetor results in a change in engine speed and this is not significant.

The panton has a response on an engine when it fills up well
so when it is loaded for a diesel. Pappillon open for a petrol engine, (This is one of the problems on large petrol engines on a car especially if the speed is limited to 100kmh)
I fully agree with you that we must measure to understand when there is improvement
An instantaneous measurement of consumption already tells us if there is improvement, but few old vehicles are equipped, I think a guy from forum work on digital electronic assembly with the duration of the injection.

Andre