Water doping at Vitry town hall: JT FR2 Gillier Pantone

Water injection in thermal engines and the famous "pantone engine". General informations. Press clippings and videos. Understanding and scientific explanations on the injection of water into engines: ideas for assemblies, studies, physico-chemical analyzes.
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by camel1 » 22/08/08, 21:01

Christophe wrote:...
But it's likely to change ...


Certainly ! : Cheesy:
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by coucou789456 » 22/08/08, 22:06

perhaps it would have been better to write on vehicles "doped with water vapor" rather than "doped with water"

because it is the biggest argument of rejection of the professionals of the automobile to whom I spoke about it: "doped with water" you will burn out your engine, the engine will block because of the water in the cylinders, and many other reasons, oxidation, loss of power, etc ... on the other hand concerning the reduction of consumption, silence and total disbelief ...

like the reaction of the self-plus reporter: "lack of perspective" ...

I even think that he would refuse to try one of the transformed vehicles, lest he break down because of the presence of water in the cylinders ....
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by Other » 23/08/08, 08:01

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perhaps it would have been better to write on vehicles "doped with water vapor" rather than "doped with water"

because it is the biggest argument of rejection of the professionals of the automobile to whom I spoke about it: "doped with water" you will burn out your engine, the engine will block because of the water in the cylinders, and many other reasons, oxidation, loss of power, etc ... on the other hand concerning the reduction of consumption, silence and total disbelief ...

like the reaction of the self-plus reporter: "lack of perspective" ...

I even think that he would refuse to try one of the transformed vehicles, lest he break down because of the presence of water in the cylinders ....



What is this urban legend about water in cylinders?
I exceed 42000km on diesel water doping I walked around 0,8 to 1 liters of water per 2km and currently I'm 100 to 1,5 liters per 1,8km it's good to the water ..

I still do not understand why I can pass so much water while having such a hot outlet 130C a160C
I do not yet understand what can change over time, apart from a gray deposit in the outlet ducts as well as in the inlet, the interior rod is tube I do not have access to it, I suppose it must also get dirty with the years of operation



Does this loss of power often come back to the carpet? what power are we talking about?
before I was doing a 300km trip by driving at 100kmh and now with doping, I repeat the same trip also at 100kmh
I estimate that to pull the 1500kg car you need the same power

So I don't see what the loss of power does in a consumption test at equal speed

Yes there is a maximum power loss, before dopge I managed to go up to 180kmh, now I go up to 170 kmh (the good deal) As the law has become so severe, that if I get caught at 180kmh fine more 1000 $ and I lose my license for 3 months, then the maximum power .... when you manage to climb most of the dimensions at 100kmh ???

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by bham » 23/08/08, 08:31

Christophe wrote:But it's likely to change ...

Ah a next scoop Christophe ?? What are you preparing for us?
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by Christophe » 23/08/08, 09:56

coucou789456 wrote:perhaps it would have been better to write on vehicles "doped with water vapor" rather than "doped with water"

because it is the biggest argument of rejection of the professionals of the automobile to whom I spoke about it: "doped with water" you will burn out your engine, the engine will block because of the water in the cylinders, and many other reasons, oxidation, loss of power, etc ... on the other hand concerning the reduction of consumption, silence and total disbelief ...


People who say that are idiots not only are incapable and would not deserve their position. You can tell them from me. And you will pass these few links to them as examples, they are "just" 4 Large manufacturers who have worked on the injection of LIQUID water (spray):

https://www.econologie.com/par-renault-a ... -2949.html
https://www.econologie.com/par-ferrari-a ... -2960.html
https://www.econologie.com/par-saab-articles-2971.html
https://www.econologie.com/par-daimler-b ... es-84.html


It's not mutism, it's fascism... in the way of reasoning: I repeat without analyzing in more depth and especially without experimenting myself.
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by carburologue » 23/08/08, 10:00

when we have a shortage of drinking water, we will thank you at econologie.com ... :?
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by Christophe » 23/08/08, 10:02

This is the kind of remark of a profound debility that I would like to no longer see about water doping.

Goods.
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by carburologue » 23/08/08, 10:56

Why???
Are you disturbed...

Freedom of expression, you know ??? Apparently not ...

In addition, it's true what I said, I still saw no one on the site using rain water for example for his pantone gillier ...

So ecology and economy, that makes econology, it seems to me that my idea is good but apparently the members use potable water ...

So it should no longer be econology the name of the site ...
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by Christophe » 23/08/08, 12:42

You say anything ... almost all the farmers turn to rainwater to see a pond or stream ...

So yes it bothers me that we talk bullshit. There are already enough who are free around water doping!

In addition, rainwater is better for water doping: less limestone and slightly acidic.

For freedom of expression you will come back: I still have the right to say when we talk about debility as you just said (2 times). To be afraid for drinking water because of water doping is pure and simple extremist idiocy ... or lobbyist ... but you are not a huh?

ps: it is not because YOU have not seen that it is the TRUTH ... unless you are GOD? Hihihihi
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by carburologue » 23/08/08, 13:21

Your thoughts are painful to read, on the part of a person with a high education, I take this as an insult. In addition, you think you are allowed but know for your information that the peasants of whom you speak do not all turn rain water my dear.
What do you know ??? Have you gone to check for yourself ??? No, I don't think so in the future you will let me doubt it.
Now that you are disturbed by my remarks, it's normal, but that you call me a moron or moron, then no I do not accept ...
Finally, you did not understand anything engineer, if drinking water were to run out here, the third world would then have risen a few thousand kms and your speech on doping would not hold at all, you will tell me it does not hold not standing; you just have to see the millions of people who use it. Where are they ???

I wonder if your doping is just a stupid utopia ???
In addition, let me doubt, I think that you drive like everyone else on petrol or diesel or even gas, so you're no better ecologically than me, so grow a little, if you don't understand that oil reigns supreme, I can't do anything about it. Life must be taken with philosophy and in the most flexible way possible otherwise by dint of being rigid we end up breaking ...

Go on this, no hard feelings, I like to chat with strong heads ... and I prefer even more when they answer me.
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