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by izentrop » 25/08/18, 15:24

Stop telling repeated salads like a parrot that you can not prove.
- Japan uses 12 kg and is the 1er consumer of pesticides per hectare, Europe, 3 kg, the United States, 2,5 kg, India, large producer, 0,5 kg / ha https://www.planetoscope.com/agricultur ... monde.html
and yet
Studies have shown that the difference in the number of prostate cancers between Japan and the United States is not exclusively genetic. Indeed, Japanese emigrants to the United States are more likely to develop prostate cancer than if they stay in Japan.

However, the main differences between Japan and the United States relate to lifestyle and more specifically to diet. https://www.prostate.fr/cancer-de-la-pr ... e-risques/

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by Janic » 25/08/18, 17:14

Stop telling repeated salads like a parrot and you can not prove
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You are not welcome to talk about salads that you repeat even more. These kindnesses said, and if you had listened to miss Mandart who is not a chemist biologist, in total it questions all the chemicals currently used in agriculture, not the only glyphosate being aware that the risk is actually to replace a blind by another one-eyed, which does not allow to see more clearly and that the solution is precisely to turn different ways.
For the question of proving, asbestos took a century before its misdeeds were finally admitted by the scientific community (in conflict of interest as usual) with its usual catchphrase of "it is not scientifically proven".
- Japan uses 12 kg and is the 1er consumer of pesticides per hectare, Europe, 3 kg, the United States, 2,5 kg, India, large producer, 0,5
kg / ha https://www.planetoscope.com/agricultur ... world.html
Again you would do well to read ALL article that makes a catastrophic record of these uses

In addition, phytosanitary substances are sometimes in the body of the food ... So? So, we must promote organic agriculture and "reasoned"; a conversion that will inevitably take time ...

Pesticides and water in France

• According to IFEN, 36% of French rivers contain pesticides at a threshold level considered "bad" and more than 90% of French rivers are polluted.

In 2004, pesticides were present on 96% of the measuring points of rivers in France.

> 61% of groundwater measurement points contained pesticides
> 27% of groundwater points should be treated to eliminate pesticides if they were used for the production of drinking water in surface water,
> 49% of measuring points have average to poor quality


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Studies have shown that the difference in the number of prostate cancers between Japan and the United States is not exclusively genetic. Indeed, Japanese emigrants to the United States are more likely to develop prostate cancer than if they stay in Japan.

Cancers are not genetic precisely. It is the way of life, environment that favors or disadvantages these pathologies. So yes, the US way of life and diet is one of the worst in our human society, where Monsanto plays a key role in it through a strong animal consumption fed on its poisoned products.

However, the main differences between Japan and the United States relate to lifestyle and more specifically to diet. https://www.prostate.fr/cancer-de-la-pr ... e-risks /
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It is likely that environmental factors are involved. says this article
The same observation was made when black and Hispanic American populations adopted the lifestyle of white Americans. of the USA. But as animal feed comes largely from South America where it is the local farmers who pay for their health and their lives with the use of these dangerous products, it goes without saying that US consumers are less impregnated.
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by Janic » 26/08/18, 13:30

testimony on France 2, the 13h15, demolished by the Rondup of Monsanto and the farmer attacks the firm.
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by izentrop » 31/08/18, 01:07

A well-conducted and documented "debunking". Like what even our resigning minister is not right to absolutely want his ban.
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by moinsdewatt » 01/09/18, 22:57

Glyphosate to speed up the growth of the Landes pines: a beekeeper sounds the alarm


franceinfo - Radio France
Updated the 31 / 08 / 2018 | 17: 22

2 000 hectares have been treated with the disputed herbicide in the forest of Landes de Gascogne, according to ecologists.

about 2 000 hectares were treated this year with products sold by Monsanto.

A practice that is not recommended
Jean-Pierre Duluc is a beekeeper in Saint-Symphorien. He produces his honey in the forest under the pines, but this year, he had to throw away his entire harvest: 1,2 tonnes of honey or 10 euros, because of the presence of glyphosate. "My wholesaler analyzed the honey and warned me that it exceeded the authorized thresholds. I am at nearly 000 ppb. This is double the authorized standard in Europe", notes Jean-Pierre Duluc.

The president of the union of management of the watershed of the Ciron, Jean-Paul Meyric, worries for him for the quality of the water and evokes a possible pollution of the water tables.

According to the Southwest Silviculturists' Union, very few farmers today use chemistry for their pines. The president of the organization, Bruno Lafon, also indicates that this is a practice that is not recommended by the union.

https://mobile.francetvinfo.fr/monde/en ... 919415.amp
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by izentrop » 10/09/18, 02:00

I sympathize for his misfortunes but beware ...
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by moinsdewatt » 14/09/18, 10:44

Zero vegetation on the tracks, the SNCF seeks an alternative to glyphosate

14 September 2018

Great user of glyphosate to weed its tracks and their immediate surroundings, SNCF hopes to find alternatives before this powerful herbicide is banned in France, otherwise the bill may be very salty.

"We have a standard today, which is zero vegetation on the tracks and on the tracks", explains to AFP Michel Morin, the head of railways at SNCF Réseau.

It is a safety imperative for train traffic: the vegetation could hold water and deform the platform (and therefore the rails). Tufts of grass could also interfere with laser beams checking track gauge or disrupting inspection of railroad workers.

As for tracks along the tracks, they must be cleared so that agents can move quickly and if necessary evacuate travelers in case of problems.

To kill this unwanted vegetation, "weed trainers" pass in the spring. They spray the tracks and tracks with a solution based on glyphosate, a product accused of causing cancer.

The SNCF uses between 35 38 tons per year.

"This represents 0,4% of French consumption", relativizes Mr. Morin. But this also makes SNCF the country's leading consumer, according to a study by the Concorde Foundation.

What if glyphosate is banned in France by 2021, as announced by the executive?

"For the moment, we have not yet found the solution, so we are doing lots of experiments," replied the boss of SNCF Réseau, Patrick Jeantet, briefly. "Until then, we hope to find things!"

The public group has really started looking for alternatives to glyphosate when the European Commission has temporarily extended its authorization for eighteen months, in June 2016 (said authorization has since been extended for five years, deadline that President Emmanuel Macron has committed to reduce to three years in France).

- Robots and electromagnetic waves -

It is urgent, because the cost of treating the tracks and tracks without glyphosate would reach around 500 million euros per year, with the means currently available. Admittedly, this bill could, according to Michel Morin, be reduced to 350 million "if we degraded (the) standards", but the note would be particularly painful compared to the current 30 million ...

The prospect is unenthusiastic while SNCF Réseau, already heavily in debt, lacks the means to maintain the network.

The company is currently studying the feasibility of a whole series of solutions after launching an "innovation marathon" last year and consulting all over the place, including in neighboring countries that have the same problem.

The group is testing alternative herbicides, in particular biocontrol products - natural herbicides - which have not yet been proven ... and are not approved. Ditto for other synthetics proposed by the suppliers, which could ultimately be more dangerous than glyphosate.

A number of robots were also used, such as Vitirover, a small autonomous grass cutter from Saint-Emilion tested on the tracks along the TGV Nord. The first tests are "promising", Judge Morin.

Always for the tracks, the installation of geotextiles - synthetic materials - could also be a solution, he adds.

On service roads, we also test selected seeding techniques, deliberately leaving plants that we control. A doctor is on the spot.

SNCF Réseau also intends to explore for the routes the herbicidal effects of electric current or electromagnetic waves, and also of thermal.

The thermal is already used on part of the 1.000 km of tracks (out of a total of 50.000) where we have to do without chemicals. Trains, very slow, for example pass water vapor to weed Vittel side. Which is very expensive, and ultimately unecological.

"Today, we've been doing research for two years. But we're still very far from the industrialization of these alternative techniques," sighs Michel Morin. And failing to find effective solutions before 2021, he shudders at the idea of ​​having to "pull tufts of grass by hand".

https://actu.orange.fr/france/zero-vege ... 16wVPM.amp
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by izentrop » 14/09/18, 11:17

moinsdewatt wrote:It is urgent, because the cost of treating the tracks and tracks without glyphosate would reach around 500 million euros per year, with the means currently available. Admittedly, this bill could, according to Michel Morin, be reduced to 350 million "if we degraded (the) standards", but the note would be particularly painful compared to the current 30 million ...
Especially since this ban would be based on public opinion manipulated by docus and toxic articles. Scientifically, the vast majority of global agencies have consistently concluded that there is no danger to humans.

Only IARC by a largely biased study of 2015 concluded to a probably carcinogenic to humans, but with huge absorbed quantities that are not found in nature.
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by Ahmed » 26/09/18, 21:33

Another mechanism, involving glyphosate, would be involved in the decline of bee populations: here.
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