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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by Janic » 12/02/18, 11:06

The quote might make your remarks a little more believable

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The AADDC ??
I spend my time quoting it every time this issue is raised.
OFFICIAL POSITION OF THE US AMERICAN DIETARY ASSOCIATION AND CANADIAN DIETITIANS IN THE FIELD OF VEGETARIAN FOOD


question by whom? Guess!
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by izentrop » 24/02/18, 23:06

Mining researchers find that glyphosate does not harm soil life in contrast to fertilizer and plowing https://www.terre-net.fr/observatoire-t ... 26581.html
Dr. Thierry Tétu, lecturer at the University of Picardy Jules Verne, based on fundamental experiments conducted in mesocosm (pots), concludes that glyphosate does not significantly affect the microbiological life of the soil when it is used at normal dosage in the laboratory. At the General Assembly of the Association Base, he also testified to his observations in a test platform on the negative medium-term consequences of plowing and nitrogen fertilization on carbon storage and yields.
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by Janic » 25/02/18, 08:35

does not significantly affect the microbiological life of the soil when it is used in normal in laboratory.
Nature is not a laboratory that selects particular conditions that rarely occur as such in fields with much more complex mechanisms
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by izentrop » 26/02/18, 22:15

How can you know? You are not a farmer that I know. The normal dose is 2 at 3 l / ha and the tests are done in soil which is analyzed after shots. https://asso-base.fr/IMG/pdf/presentati ... 17.txt.pdf
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by Janic » 27/02/18, 08:54

How can you know? You are not a farmer that I know. The normal dose is 2 at 3 l / ha and the tests are done in soil which is analyzed after shots. https://asso-base.fr/IMG/pdf/presentati ... 17.txt.pdf


You do not have to be a farmer to notice this mix between agrochemistry and agrobiology, which is the case of this PDF. If you're Did 67, he talks about it professionally.
I come back to it again, but it's like mixing between natural treatments and chemical treatments, one hiding the curative action of the other: which is the most effective, the most necessary? Or again and always the vaccines developed at the same time as the general hygiene: which is the most effective, the most necessary and especially the least dangerous for the health of the populations. We can understand the farmers who were trapped by the productivist system that was to enrich them galore and which only a few have benefited. The others are in debt to the neck, they have to fertilize the soil, treat permanently to produce plants selected for their immediate yield, but biologically fragile, sick having even to grow, etc ... and, oh miracle additional, the chemists have found a cheap product designed to destroy their grassy "pests" to gain some extra pennies.
What you do not want to understand is that ALL synthetic products, and in any field whatsoever, are dangerous for the health of plants such as animals and even microorganisms of all kinds.
The people of my generation, and the previous ones, still remember the debates between the old people who practiced ancestral culture and the young people who saw in agrochemistry (stuffing skull of this same industry) the solution of the future in total ignorance of course, what has been going on for a few decades now, and that consumers, more and more suspicious of agrochemicals, no longer want and this is not a question of current government or precedents.
More and more people want organic (vilified yesterday by those who recommend it today, as usual) they turn to homeopathy and other non-aggressive therapies, want healthier homes in their homes. construction, etc ... and of course more toxic treatments that have been revealed in the destruction of the bees and that the undecided have been able to notice and of which Monsanto is to be the most representative of this destruction of the life.
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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by izentrop » 02/03/18, 22:33

The opinion of a highly qualified professional in conservation agriculture:
In the case of glyphosate, these
results corroborate those we presented on Oberacker
Switzerland (TCS 85 November / December 2015). They are
minimal and certainly not even direct ... So a
little glyphosate will not be so impacting and most importantly will allow us
to bring even more aggradation if it allows us to
remove tillage, produce efficient cutlery
and also significantly reduce nitrogen fertilization.
Frédéric THOMAS
https://agriculture-de-conservation.com ... herche.pdf
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by Janic » 03/03/18, 08:21

you must have forgotten to read the red box!
But the question is less the glyphosate that is implicated than the whole agrochemical! This product will be immediately followed by another, then his followers. Gold who claims the removal of glyphosate: Agrochemists or their opponents whose general population? This last obviously! Just see the shift towards organic, like processed products that, more and more, recommend themselves to be without dyes, parabens, stuff and without tools. But your article is about agrochemistry and its difficulties in wanting to maintain at all costs its deadly and lucrative productivist business. But it moves among small farmers who are gradually awakening from their nightmare, their hypnotic state, and become aware of their role as peasant, and no longer exploiting the land.
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by izentrop » 03/03/18, 08:44

Janic wrote:you must have forgotten to read the red box!
The quote comes from this box Image
Janic wrote: who claims the removal of glyphosate: Agrochemists or their opponents whose general population? This last obviously!
No, only the activists and only because there is the GMO "roundup ready" and who are making a film out of ignorance of agricultural issues.

Some journalists are putting together horrid scenarios like Marie Monique Robin or journalists from Le Monde, because it's seller. French researchers have even made studies that have been tampered with, refuted, but too late, the damage is done ...
It's stuck in the minds of "the general population", as you say. :|
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by Janic » 03/03/18, 14:01

janic wrote: you must have forgotten to read the red box so far!
The quote comes from this box
It's funny, it's not the part I remember ... like what! :D
janic wrote: who claims the removal of glyphosate: Agrochemists or their opponents whose general population? This last obviously!
No, only the activists and only because there is the GMO "roundup ready" and who are making a film out of ignorance of agricultural issues.
Because you think agrochemistry does not have its activists in a white coat. Go back down to earth!
You seem to forget that these anti glyphosate “activists” (also called whistleblowers) also have agronomists, farmers, victims, doctors who see the results of these synthetic products. Without these "activists", nuclear power would do as it wanted, asbestos would still be everywhere in homes, DDT would still be used, etc.
Some journalists are putting together horrid scenarios like Marie Monique Robin or journalists from Le Monde, because it's seller. French researchers have even made studies that have been tampered with, refuted, but too late, the damage is done ...
Clearly, the bad guys would only be the opponents, come down from your cloud! Cheaters are always on the side of the money and the money is the agrochemicals that holds it and yet she is afraid of little "activists" without money.
It stuck in the minds of "the general population", as you say
After believing in the promise of this agrochemical, the general population that is not, or more, agricultural, it is she who consumes their products and she can note the difference between chemical products and bio products without these toxic products and more and more farmers are becoming aware of it too.

9 french on 10 we consume or consume organic!
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Re: Monsanto Roundup deadly to humans - Glyphosate




by Janic » 05/03/18, 11:10

http://www.tv-replay.fr/soja-la-grande-invasion/

soya and especially glyphosate questioned because producing malformations in small piglets and the recognition that no study has been made on this subject on humans, in France at least! : Evil:
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