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by I Citro » 26/06/06, 22:29

: Shock: I open wide my eyes and ears, and I consult surrealist.org :D

Then I will go to my local PC rebreather : Idea:

That said, I do not see why you so fiercely opposed the reinjection of current in the network, even if I heard all your arguments. :|
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by Willaupuis » 26/06/06, 22:44

to answer CITRO
who asks me how I will isolate the outer walls ,,,, I try to read the most of forum on this subject whether it is here or on other site ,,, and I spoke to my brother-in-law who is a mason ,,,, he advises me to put my insulation to cover it with a wire mesh and to cover all of a mix of cement lime and sand (in 3 layer with a grain size of finer and finer to drive moisture outwards) and brush with the wire netting ca hold without problem according to him, so economic the problem is that I would have wanted to use hemp but put this mixture directly on it is not too possible it advises me to use polyurethane plates ,,,, but I'm still looking before I finally start vacation come and go soon I'll have to start, if you have any advice to give me?

For JONULE:
your recovery method for the batteries interests me, since I get a battery kit of electric clark or elevator 12 element 448AH 24V (in fact ca what recoverable power ????? in 220V through an inverter) so I'll go Zieuter (watch) your site
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by Willaupuis » 26/06/06, 22:47

ah yes a detail that I forgot to specify I have an average consumption of about 3000kw / year
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by Other » 27/06/06, 05:27

Hello willaupuis

annual consumption 3000kw / year? not possible you warm with wood? hot water to gas? What will it be once isolated?
Annually from 18 April 2005 to 18 April 2006 I consumed 26170 kw cost 1917 $
my two biggest months of 8 december 2005 to 13 february 2006
67 days 6910kw cost 504 $ it's the coldest of winter
The invoices of hydroquebec are well detailed and we can make a comparison with the previous year, (it has just increased, it looks like we are wasting)
The house is well insulated all electrical .. It is considered a good consomation, some consumes more than double that.

For your exterior wall insulation there is a company in the south of France that imports from Quebec Bénolec an insulator made with recycled paper completely ecological and antifeux it is put to the rifle on the walls with a mixture of water and it makes a sticky dough ..

WWW.xylobell.fr/

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by jonule » 27/06/06, 09:43

to stay in the subject, a home wind turbine is manufactured with a bike mechanism: fork + rear wheel with sprockets, the pedal if you want to pump water. the blades: a tube evacuation type of stove, cut in half-cylinder, then cut in V, one guides the blades so that the wind arriving on makes a turn to 90 °: the wind turns the blades.
for the generator, the simplest and most cost-effective is to make it yourself, neodymium magnets (powermagnet.de or neotexx or hard disks) and copper wire for coils (ches a coiler). the lternative current is then rectified to 12V; we can manufacture 1, 2, 3, ...
on the site, a pdf where everything is explained (wind turbine 180W), enough for all the lighting of the house (economic compact fluorescents), another for computer + TV + hifi ...
even if electricity is not yet expensive, that's what lies ahead.

never could I receive as a gift a nuclear kettle from 2000 W! : Shock: : Evil: : Cry:
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by jonule » 27/06/06, 09:51

for EDTA, I managed to order in the United States, with the port it cost me 75 € for 3 packages of 1 lb 3 500g x powder powder.
knowing that it takes only one teaspoon per cell battery, I have for years ... I recovered hyper powerful batteries and there I am enjoying to recover for other but good ... otherwise those who have tried are pretty happy ...
I say that because I gladly sell 2 of my 3 packets of EDTA to 25 € the package (powder) because they will never serve me, and I saw a little wide (...). if interested I put it on sale on ebay, I managed to find the best price but no one seems interested ...

it's an econological product know it! -)

US site command contact: trailhead

once well cleaned, we can charge the battery again with the electronic pulse twitch (the same as for pulsed electrolysis) look for "battery regenerator" ;-)

when we see that so many batteries are thrown away and say "non-recyclable" simply because the sulphate has separated from the acid! :frown:
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by Willaupuis » 27/06/06, 17:22

to answer CITRO:

I was already informed for the projection of polyurethane foam but it is overpriced 40euros / m² (nothing but the wall nod is 60m² then 4 facades €€€€€€)
for cellulose wadding I read very little about it for now

To answer ANDRE:
Since 2ans and a half that I live in my house I have consumed 8060KW (heating soapstone wood with an infrared electric ceiling that takes over when the temperature drops to a certain level) electric water heater soon replaced by a water heater solar that will be personal manufacturing see the many post on this site. I would go see Xylobell and ask for a quote, thanks for the info.

To answer JONULE:
I prefer to build myself my wind turbine but where I hold it is on the manufacture of the generator I would have wanted to have at least 1500W and even buy I hold to find a suitable wind turbine (although I had found a Canadian site that explain with big neodymium magnet to build a generator it uses a wheel hub car as the base of rolling the coils are fixed and the wind turbine rotates the magnets fixed on this hub, if I find the address I give it is very well done and with lots of photo) otherwise the wind turbine I would have rather established horizontal style GUAL industry with a fixed part that guides the wind.

For EDTA I will first ask a friend who graduated agronomist and who works in a chemical industry and fertilizer to see if he would have in a corner of his business or I'll keep you informed for the possible redemption a package
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by jonule » 28/06/06, 11:38

no problem; but I can tell you that it works flawlessly, nothing better to clean it thoroughly, then it releases all its load. beware there are several forms of EDTA.

I put you in link:

regenerate batteries, build a generator / wind turbine: www.nrjrealiste.fr

after you size as you want.
for the horizontal wind turbine home gual, I built a small replica (1.5m diameter), it works well there is inertia but ... it is made for flat roofs of building, otherwise it is necessary classically hoist it like a wind turbine; it does not turn very fast but we can multiply the movement.
if you put 3 of 500W, which is achievable with neodymium magnets (powermagnet.de or neotexx.com) you get to your 1500W ;-)

on the site is also everything to make his network 12V, adapt an alternator car etc ...
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by Willaupuis » 28/06/06, 23:09

good I had asked a quote to a Belgian company of photovoltaic panels for the installation of a kit of power 1600-3200-4800Wc and here is their answer

Hello,

Electrasun kits can actually be connected in parallel to the
network, that is to say that the excess of photovoltaic electricity
used in your home will be reinjected into the public network (the
counter turns upside down in this case).


The prices of the kits are 9075, 16960 and 24960 euros + 21% VAT.

There are no specific production records for these kits; know
however these panels will produce, on average over the year in
Belgium, 85 to 90% of their rated power.

At your disposal for any further information,

What surprises me the most is that they also write that we can turn the counter upside down ???
sales method for their kit or reality ???
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by zac » 28/06/06, 23:18

Willaupuis wrote:The prices of the kits are 9075, 16960 and 24960 euros + 21% VAT.

There are no specific production records for these kits; know
however these panels will produce, on average over the year in
Belgium, 85 to 90% of their rated power.


Hello

Luckily it's probably crooks 85 90 / 100 I'm far in the tropics so in Belgium I have serious doubt.

new sign, clean and cloudless day I am at 70 75 / 100
5 panel years clean and slightly veiled weather I fall to 20 25 / 100.

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