Scams to ecology, for very soon?

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by Christophe » 13/11/09, 14:17

Corpse Grinder 666 wrote:the biggest scams are the legalized ... and there are ....


Well the biggest of all time is still that of public debt ...

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https://www.econologie.com/l-escroquerie ... -3920.html
https://www.econologie.com/forums/article-10 ... t6156.html
https://www.econologie.com/forums/adherez-au ... t6158.html

But this does not really (at least not directly) concern ecology ...
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by Corpse Grinder 666 » 13/11/09, 14:34

I think it's this system.
Besides a link on debt money to understand the system that precisely created us a debt (incidentally false):
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x75e0k ... fr-in_news

However, the solutions mentioned at the end seem very limited ...
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by Christophe » 13/11/09, 14:41

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by yoananda » 13/11/09, 16:38

Yes, except that Grignon's video is falsely simplifying. Money creation doesn't happen like that.
Subject long debated and decided on the blog of Paul Jorion.
Retail banks do not create money.

In any case, what matters is more the speed of circulation of money, as much as its mass.
What matters is the circuits, that is, which affects the interest on the debt, and what they do with it.

For example, if I put my money on life insurance in government bonds, it is ME who receives these famous debt interests. So where is the problem ?

The problem is not debt. It would be nice if the state, but it only serves certain political movements that ride the wave of discontent ...

You have to know the history of what preceded the debt to take a stand.
I am not defending the debt either, but the problem is not there.
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by Christophe » 13/11/09, 16:50

Of course if he is there ... (even if there are others ...) private banks have "stolen" money creation capacity from States ...

"Retail" banks do well create money because they are the intermediaries of central banks. So stop playing on words there ...

Individuals ALL PAY via TAXES (or TAXES) the interest on the public debt and in no case all receive the interest (not to mention taxes, taxes and various commissions on these so-called financial products) ...

And if they touch it it is in deficit proportions for the average taxpayer ... compared to the weight of the debt in their contributions ...

It is not me who says it ... but certain "public men" (who therefore have rare) like Philippe Seguin for example https://www.econologie.com/philippe-segu ... -4146.html

Otherwise what are you working on? :?:
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by yoananda » 14/11/09, 23:59

If central banks were able to "steal" this right from states, it is not for nothing!
I will not re-explain everything on this thread which is not dedicated to this discussion.
Anyway your opinion is made, and I have nothing against the fact that you prefer to believe pomace rather than me or another. If you really want to know, you will ask questions (not necessarily to me for that matter). But this explanation is not consistent for more than one reason.
I spent more than 2 years dismantling the economy to finally understand. And I went through the "grignonesque" phase too ;-)
The pomace video is far from enough to understand the economy and its foundations.
in short.

it doesn't change the problem anyway, and central banks are part of it anyway. If they do fall, I won't cry for them! So even if people are wrong, it does my job! ;-)
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Re: Ecology scams, very soon?




by Christophe » 15/12/17, 13:57

This subject is 10 years old ... has the situation improved since these 2 testimonies?



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