Reduction of the plastic continent?

[moinsdewatt]

These technical dreams will see their share of problems come when they are on the ground, or rather on the water.

To know :
1 / resistance or not to storms or a little too strong swell.
2 / cut by boats which should not pass and which pass

When the cost will not be negligible because at some point it will be necessary to "collect" all these accumulated plastics and transport them by special boat, dry them, and send them to incinerators ........

I think it will take 5 to 10 years to go around the question.

[Christophe]

Yes technical dreams is a good word for this project ... it is completely utopian. But that does not prevent the neuneus and daily to drool over it, it gives a good conscience to what appears ...

We are already unable to clean up an oil spill in a very contained perimeter (in comparison) with sausages then all the plastics of the oceans ... yes yes ... and the groundhog packs chocolate!

But that does not prevent the young entrepreneur from having raised millions ... "bravo" to him for this "performance" I am waiting to see the results ... technical because for the moment the performance is mainly financial .. .

The Dutch are born traders ...

And then we are always in a capitalistic mentality of curration rather than prevention ...

Well, I bet that in 10 years, maybe less, the little Dutchman will raise millions to clean the air of CO2 ...

[moinsdewatt]

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The Dutch are born traders ...

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yes, but ALSO they are ambitious builders, see the dikes they managed to make and the land areas reclaimed from the sea.

For the demonstrator in Japan, there is no doubt that they can do it. The Japanese are not marbles either.

Then doing another km long in the Pacific is a whole different story.

[Christophe]

Then doing another km long in the Pacific is a whole different story.

How effective? How many tons of plastic tonnage recovered ?? 1 / 1?

But in consciousness, this will continue to pollute plastics ... since we clean ...

Ahh I now understand better who that might interest !!

[Ahmed]

Christophe, you write:

Well, I bet that in 10 years, maybe less, the little Dutchman will raise millions to clean the air of CO2 ...

Do you honestly think that it makes sense to provide him with grain to grind?

[chatelot16]

The technique that saves us from the technique: it's as beautiful as a sunset on the CAC 40!

In any case it is likely to please the readers of "Figaro" who are, for the most part, well involved in the destruction of living conditions on earth, by confirming them in the merits of their approach ...

you shouldn't despise technique so much! of the technique well used can repair what of the technique badly used did

to move forward you shouldn't despise technique: you need skill to move in the right direction ... to move in the wrong direction is to go back

if plastics were considered as fuel it would have as much value as oil and we would not find them at sea ... alas we are told that the combustion of plastic pollutes ... which is completely false for polyethylene and polypropylene which floats in water is made this continent of waste

it is the pcv which pollutes by burning in a single hearth ... but the pvc does not float, it sinks

another even more important remark! burning in a single hearth is a bad way: burning in a gasifier is much better: you can burn any plastic including PVC without the risk of dioxin ... we are starting to see gasification plants ... new name gasifier that efficiently use all plastic waste

when anyone can buy their small gasifier to make their energy with all the plastic that drag it will not drag anymore!

[Ahmed]

You know me enough, Chatelot, to know that I do not despise technique in any way, I only deplore the fact that its insane servants put it at the service of the accumulation of abstract value and not for the benefit of men.
Unfortunately, technology and economics are now so closely intertwined that a good use of technology cannot be envisaged without a new lucidity which, alone, could turn away from the absurd fetish of value.

[chatelot16]

Ahmed I don't know you enough to understand everything ... I often read you about this forum but I don't understand why you oppose a certain solution ... but we discuss it politely and from the discussion comes light

[Ahmed]

The technique can be a good solution to a defect in a non-mature technique: it is part of the development and correction of inevitable errors and conjunctural.

This is not the case with "errors" structural, those that are unfavorable to human beings, but deliberately instituted to produce abstract value. In this case, it is pointless to hope that a technique comes to bring a correction other than at the margin (.ie that the role of the corrective is then only to limit the too obvious drawbacks of a technical choice, thus allowing it to "persevere in its being").

[Grelinette]

Hello,

I do not understand some of your opinions which question the interest and the effectiveness, even relative, of the idea of ​​this young Dutchman who offers a solution to reduce the impact of pollution of the seas and oceans.

Admittedly, the technical solution proposed intervenes downstream of the pollution, and it would be common sense to attack its source, but today the problem of pollution still arises in this way:
the actors of pollution are not the same as those of depollution!

Why reduce the speed of cars when it is so simple to make less polluting cars, or to make fewer cars?

Why choose separate waste when it is so simple to reduce waste (packaging)? Etc ...

The paradoxes of human activity are not lacking.

Human activity is entangled in its own contradictions: on the one hand, the economic imperatives of growth encourage polluting industrial activities, on the other, problems of public health and environmental destruction require measures to reduce pollution and urgent depollution ...

Note also that the first, those who pollute, were trained to create efficient and economically juicy activities (without worrying about the impact in terms of pollution),
the second, those who clean up, follow a different course AND which is a logical extension of the first! ...

Choose your comrade camps.

To return to this project, it has the advantage of proposing an early solution which will undoubtedly be a first step, it usefully feeds the debate and reflection on the scourge of pollution of the seas and oceans, and incidentally destructive human activity.

The fact that this is a young student who has gone to the end of his idea, despite apparently early criticism, makes a good subject for the media, but it is another problem.

Wait and see ...