Purchase pellets in Alsace (68) or in the Rhine

[Christophe]

At this rate we will soon reach the price of fuel.

Ben in some cases it's already worse ... see my example of the bunch to more than 300 € per ton!

To console me I say to myself then that I make a small gesture for our beautiful planet.

Yeah I understand your situation I'm sorry because if the world was less aligned with oil, well the alternatives would be much more successful! For me this is econology: stop reporting all energies to oil!

ps: to consoller you can take a good KRO too

[jean63]

Yes we go away ... but let me answer:

I do not think you can always choose your charges far from it ...
For example in Paris it is impossible to find accommodation for less than 700 € / month ... And yet I am convinced that people with the smic pay this kind of rent ...

And food and energy? Their increase is faster than wages ... but we can choose not to eat it's true ...

HDI = Human Development Index = alternative to GDP (m *** e)

You mean that a smicard CAN NOT lodge in Paris (and even elsewhere is hard) ....... it is downright homeless: we see in the reports that work and sleep in the street or in their car.

An owner or especially an agency asks for a salary of 3 times the amount of the rent.

I know something with my younger son (No. 3) who had found work with bac + 5 in the southern suburbs of Paris (Evry) last August. It was far from the SMIC and it took despite all that one takes surety for him + 2 month of rent + deposit of one month's rent at the entrance. His studio cost 550 euros / month (I think) Savigny s / orge.Il had a job in a small CDI, but had to pay his lunch 12 euros in the small restaurant corner.

He held 1 1 / 2 months (highway noise + planes ... near Orly ...); he has resigned and found another job on Toulouse but CDD, less paid but a cheap business restaurant ... and then, more pleasant city, it is closer to nature (Ariège, Pyrenees..etc, ocean).

... you said "quality of life"

It is clear that the problem of purchasing power EXISTS and worsens if you want to buy organic : the price goes from simple to double .... and yet when we see the fruits and vegetables coming from Spain (southern region: plain of Almeria) and the report of Special Envoy of FR2 of last Thursday on the pesticides (traffic in Spain on banned and dangerous pesticides) ... it definitely cuts the urge to buy these products.

[Christophe]

I agree with you but we deviate too much pellets there ...

[jean63]

I agree with you but we deviate too much pellets there ...

Pellets will also make purchasing power difficult if I understand correctly.

It is incredible this flight forward; there is no more REGULATION. In fact the competition does not play. The capitalist LIBERAL system is bad.

In energy, we align ourselves with the most expensive. It can almost be said that alternatives to oil will be curbed by the increase in their price because all energy solutions are aligned with oil.

Where it does not go at all is the case of agrofuels that increase the staple food.

To return to the pellets, it would be interesting to understand why the German supplier is much cheaper than the Alsatian! Are there taxes in France that would not exist in Germany?

[68 pilot]

Hello
I found a site discussing the price of pellets:
http://merome.net/granules/index.php
just enter the number of his department.
but it is true that the price of wood energy has increased considerably, but is still lower (slightly) in fuel
and (a lot) to the electric
good heating to all

[Christophe]

Not bad this little pilot comparator, but 280 € without delivery is already more expensive than oil ...

[68 pilot]

it's true in undelivered bag
but see my tests:
in the 29-12-2007 post
title: choose your boiler
we see that the price of bulk pellet
is very competitive compared to fuel if, of course, bulk prices do not take a hit ...
but the price of the logs did not take it?
no longer able to do my wood in the communal forest,
and considering the tariff (in black and undelivered) requested by private individuals
I have no choice but to fall back on fuel or pellet
ecology also goes through my ECONOMY

[Christophe]

Ben my parents who are in Strasbourg told me they saw Steres 80 € in Alsace ...

Obviously the ecology must go through the economy ... it's the only chance that ecology is accepted by a majority ... It's also the definition of econology

That's why I get angry when I see the speculations on the price of wood ... the sellers did not understand that they shot themselves in the foot?

[jean63]

Ben my parents who are in Strasbourg told me they saw Steres 80 € in Alsace ...

Obviously the ecology must go through the economy ... it's the only chance that ecology is accepted by a majority ... It's also the definition of econology

That's why I get angry when I see the speculations on the price of wood ... the sellers did not understand that they shot themselves in the foot?

Yes, but the capitalist "market" economy, taken to the extreme, gives what we are currently experiencing.

Everything works on the razor's edge. Just look at the fall of global stock markets today, it is a reflection of the current society.

- If you have very little money and / or not resourceful or sick ... you are in the street SDF,

- If you have medium money, you try to survive with your small means ... and you have to face the "purchasing power" which decreases (because all the products increase more than your income),

- If you are "normally" rich :
. Either you are satisfied with your situation and you manage so as not to consume too much heat, food, car ... etc,
. Either that is not enough for you and you take advantage of the unbridled system of liberal capitalism: you increase your sales prices if you are a trader beyond what should be (because no control = market economy / law of supply and demand).

==> this is what happens for bread, meat, fruit and vegetables, pellets, wood, .... and all that supposedly because of the oil .... the beautiful excuse

- Either you are very rich You have nothing to do with these low problems of the people. YOU consume and again and again and again .... you pollute at any rate ..... and then you die like everyone else.

[jean63]

Hello
I found a site discussing the price of pellets:
http://merome.net/granules/index.php
just enter the number of his department.
but it is true that the price of wood energy has increased considerably, but is still lower (slightly) in fuel
and (a lot) to the electric
good heating to all

Interesting although not concerned, I warm up to nat city gas.

In my departure 63 (Auvergne):

The bulk price is 200 euros / ton delivered (so it's about the same price as Germany!). Is it HT or TTC?

The price in bag is 250 euros / ton delivered.

Maybe in Auvergne we are on production sites? because a lot of forest and sawmills.

There is not a website that gives the pellet production sites?