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by moimart1 » 16/07/08, 12:56

I thought (oula ^^), I think the best is that I buy a diesel group that can work in oil, as its I do not hang with the regulation

But where do I find this and at what price?

(Enercoop hasn't answered me yet, I'm waiting ...)
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by minguinhirigue » 16/07/08, 18:29

The price will frighten you in comparison with a recovery installation, and as boubka and others say, regulation is not necessarily very complicated if you take a three-phase generator, the easier it is a generator initially planned for a generator ...

I think that avoiding the purchase of a new diesel engine can be interesting for the wallet ...

Still, I don't have a price on hand, so I can't compare ...
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by minguinhirigue » 16/07/08, 19:40

To see the details of the regulation of this model of Cogen with oil available in Belgium, it is true that there is work to regulate the production: http://www.cogengreen.com/images_cogene ... ngreen.pdf
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by chatelot16 » 16/07/08, 23:25

the injection pump regulators are all speed regulators on agricultural tractors or old diesel vehicles: when you change the position of the lever or the pedal the engine does everything it can to obey: but for the engines of powerful vehicle it's too brutal: they put mini maxi regulators: it only regulates the mini to not stall and the maxi not to break: between the 2, the pedal controls only the torque without regulating the speed

the mini maxi car regulators are therefore not at all suitable for generator sets

it would be necessary to deregulate them completely so that the minimum and maximum regimes touch, but it is not possible, it is necessary to change the springs ...
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by boubka » 17/07/08, 12:04

Hello
here is an identical project link ends. you just have to register
unfortunately it's in english
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wastewatts/
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by Leroy » 17/07/08, 20:40

= this cogeneration plant is very successful but putting the alternator to start the engine is very similar to thinking of recovering its heat
= for the transformation of the engine into an alternator all the big handymen and dreamers know the ebonys site
= unfortunately I have not yet found someone on the web who did it. Does anyone have a link
= I have a 5.5kw motor I need 32µF condos but I am too lazy to spend 60 or 100 € lest it not work
= I also have the adequate car engine (a small ww on a seat terra also mounted on the polo shirts)
= I just found a small volvo marine engine it must do in 10hp it will go with my 5.5kw engine
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by chatelot16 » 17/07/08, 20:57

a marine engine is very good: it always has a full speed regulator: so it remains only to fix the control to make 50 hz

marine engines are fully water cooled

beware of car engines which are not sufficiently well cooled by water: certainly we really need the wind speed to cool the bottom of the engine and the oil: it is prudent to add an exchanger between the and water
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by jonule » 18/07/08, 13:37

that's why we recover the heat to improve reforidification ;-)
for the transformer of an asynchronous motor in generator, there is one which made it on this site, 2 believe even, to seek with "horizontal windmill" and "water mill" or something like that.

it's good + simple to use 12V devices at the output of the car engine battery!
we can add alternators, and batetries, make a stock (all the batteries are regenerated) and add a powerful 12> 220 inverter if we REALLY want to use the electric oven, which is worth nothing compared to the wood oven; - )
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by the middle » 18/07/08, 13:46

900 euros ... for 5kw, but :? air cooling
Planned for 3000 hours, can be transformed for 5000 hours of operation if I understood correctly (in vlaams) :D
http://cgi.befr.ebay.be/NIEUW-MODEL-200 ... dZViewItem
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by Leroy » 18/07/08, 16:36

= you have to pay attention to all these groups there are a hundred to sell on the right corner you should ask all these sellers the real cause of the sale
= on the other hand you should avoid 3000trs anyway it's too much 1500trs it wears out 2 times slower
= it's true that now on 12v there are alternators still on ebay that come out of the 200A for less than 200 € if I have room I would try to put one
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