Produce electricity with water mill

[Castor]

Bonjour.

in my opinion there are many interesting passages in the doc. She is very complete, (almost too much!). I had attacked the translation, but I was not very far away. It seems to me to have understood that you had some pretty solid notions in Exceed electronics. In fact most of the doc is an explanation of the schema. I think that by studying the diagram you could learn a lot.
I can already pass what I have translated if you want.

Excuse me, I forgot you for the explanation on the phase angle dimmer that makes up most of the editing.

[Exceed]

Good evening everyone...


Yeah ... 900 $ for sale .... 100 € if you do it yourself !!! Crazy !!! This is not how we will develop microhydro in France .... moreover in France, there is no corresponding information to this less expensive and more reliable technology .... it's still weird !!! No ?

Fab, if you really want to get started ... here are the two files I'm interested in:
http://microhydropower.net/mhp_group/portegijs/humbird/humbird.zip
http://microhydropower.net/mhp_group/portegijs/humbird/3_phase.zip

Obviously, if you get away with it ... it will be worth at least the legion of honor for service rendered for nature !!!
And then, I'm sure that when we see in France this technology work ... it will be a lot of small!
An asynchronous motor and a regulation and hop !!!
When I think about it ... on large wind turbines on isolated site ... it must exist too!

Otherwise, do not apologize for not having done so or that ... beaver!
It's already very nice to help me!

As for my abilities in electronics ... well, I worked 15 years as a TV / Video / Hifi troubleshooter ... until 2000!
I mostly have basic knowledge (Bac F2), but by professional deformation, I specialized in maintenance ... and when we are specialized in something ... we can not be in all areas! !! So a device to repair ... for me, it's a joke! At the end of the 250000ème, we start to have some automatisms ... but I'm a bit of a bump in theory ... really the base ... and yes, when you work at the performance in the workshop, the time to have fun decorting a diagram .... you go directly to the circuit break down and you know the components and their reliability by heart ...

So before I start designing the circuit, I would really like to know what it is used for and how it works ... I understand quickly but must explain myself a long time .... it says nothing?
I'm a little shame anyway .... I should understand a little better ....
I have to see to understand better ...

I would like to see in French .... it would arrange me !!!

A + Serge.

[Castor]

Re

Maybe a beginning of translation can help you, here it is:

https://www.econologie.com/fichiers/partager/Humbird-fra.doc

Heck, there is a neck..the pictures are no longer on the file doc! I do not know why!

[patou]

gentleman
it is obvious that the output would be important with a new turbine. I made entirely a turbine type ossberger which does not pose too many difficulties to the realization and a super performance. to see the principle. on google type: turbine osseberger. before I tried to mount a propeller turbine but the performance was very bad.I am in realization of a small dynamo muller the problem
I can not find magnetite powder to make the cores of coils.
patou

I wanted to send you a picture of my turbine wheel but I can not do it this is a turbine osberger 2 1 discs cm thick with notches that were made by a company
Laser cutting is not expensive.
my wheel of magnet 36cm width 27 cm.
see you

[patou]

gentleman
it is obvious that the output would be important with a new turbine. I made entirely a turbine type ossberger which does not pose too many difficulties to the realization and a super performance. to see the principle. on google type: turbine osseberger. before I tried to mount a propeller turbine but the performance was very bad.I am in realization of a small dynamo muller the problem
I can not find magnetite powder to make the cores of coils.
patou

I wanted to send you a picture of my turbine wheel but I can not do it this is a turbine osberger 2 1 discs cm thick with notches that were made by a company
Laser cutting is not expensive.
my wheel of magnet 36cm width 27 cm.
see you

photo essay:


https://www.econologie.com/fichiers/partager/TURBINE.jpg

[Woodcutter]

It works for the photo essay ...

Nice job this paddlewheel, but it reminds me of systems for low speeds, is it?

[Exceed]

Hello,

Well done ! Nice work ... but it is still taff !!!
Do you think you produce how much and how?

A + Serge.

[patou]

Hello,

Well done ! Nice work ... but it is still taff !!!
Do you think you produce how much and how?

A + Serge.

the photo of my turbine that I sent I built it 10 years ago it provided me 2 kilowartts per hour.
_The maximum fall height I have 2 meters 70cm
_the max power is 2 kilowatts with about 100 liters per second
_According to the fall I have the wheel of the turbine turns at 200 turns per minute ..
it is obvious that if this same turbine was placed on a larger fall, it would have much more power and a greater speed of rotation.
to return to my instalation.
so my wheel rotates at 200 rpm which I multiply by pigons with a ratio of 2.54 after I mutiplie again with 13 trapezoidal belt pulleys.
with these multiplication reports I run a dynamo (she has 80ans) I bought brooms for the collector is expensive.
it turns at 1600 tr / minutes they spell me 110 volts 20 amperes
when I make it run at full power.
tell me what you did not understand.

I can already give you an explanation. In order for the water to provide a working engine, it is necessary to brake the turbine by connecting resistors at the output of the dynamo or an alternator.

For the calculation, find the formula of the water velocity according to the height of the waterfall (I do not know it anymore)
you find example water speed output injector 10 meters per second so you have to find the right ratio between alternator and turbine so that the turbine rotates with a peripteric speed
about 5 meters per second.
the old ones they made the turbine they made it to turn empty and measured the speed of rotation and after dividing it by 2 it is even more just
which department do you live in?
amicalement
Patout

[Other]

Hello

with these multiplication reports I run a dynamo (she has 80ans) I bought brooms for the collector is expensive.
it turns at 1600 tr / minutes they spell me 110 volts 20 amperes

The best brooms are the company Carbone Lorrain. (Pagny sur Moselle (In Quebec it's the ones I use for big DC motors in a steelwork)
A good broom must not be too hard or too soft, it must always operate with a certain load, (empty it uses the collector) it takes some heat on the collector when it is cold the collector (shouts) the right color This is dark chocolate brown collector tun, a copper color collector it is not good the graphite film is not formed.
In general you can find brooms to the approximate measure and file them sandblasted, to adjust them, a good brooms do not wear almost no it must be able to turn for 5 years continuously, a slack is preferable to a hard (more graphite and less carbon)

Andre

[patou]

Hello

with these multiplication reports I run a dynamo (she has 80ans) I bought brooms for the collector is expensive.
it turns at 1600 tr / minutes they spell me 110 volts 20 amperes

The best brooms are the company Carbone Lorrain. (Pagny sur Moselle (In Quebec it's the ones I use for big DC motors in a steelwork)
A good broom must not be too hard or too soft, it must always operate with a certain load, (empty it uses the collector) it takes some heat on the collector when it is cold the collector (shouts) the right color This is dark chocolate brown collector tun, a copper color collector it is not good the graphite film is not formed.
In general you can find brooms to the approximate measure and file them sandblasted, to adjust them, a good brooms do not wear almost no it must be able to turn for 5 years continuously, a slack is preferable to a hard (more graphite and less carbon)

Andre

Hello .
I used 12 brooms in 10 years but I must say that I have 4 brooms on the dynamo. Yet actually it's brooms that I buy carbon Lorraine I sent them a broom of gold after analysis he made me brooms.
12 dimension on 16sur32 reference EG34D.
I just bought 12 again.
so to try to consume less brooms, I returned the collector really well. I restarted this was not good yet because I had too much vertical play in the brooms.
I tried to settle the neutral line.
I always have small spark especially on the positive exit.
the color of my collector does not correspond to what you told me me I see black bands in front of the brooms that I clean on the fly with a dry cloth.It may be a mistake.
thanks for your advices .
amicalement
patou