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Nuclear fusion + car eliica = promising future!




by oliburn » 25/01/08, 06:52

I don't know if the subject has already been covered, but it can
interest some ...
it looks like an improved DS ...
performance question, that proves that the technique is perfected ...
and then with the capacitor banks and the wheel motors ... we are still going in the right direction!
there is an interesting "Eliica VS Porsche turbo"!

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by bham » 25/01/08, 07:35

Very nice achievement this Ellica!
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by Capt_Maloche » 25/01/08, 08:53

Well yes, it's obvious

and wait for quantum batteries to arrive http://patents1.ic.gc.ca/details?patent_number=2491552
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by denis » 25/01/08, 09:55

I saw an electric dragster one day, the acceleration was incredible!
there is just a lack of will! , not having oil, will develop nuclear (china) to make electric cars, it will be better than coal cars! : Mrgreen:
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by Chatham » 25/01/08, 10:59

Interesting concept, although the 8 wheels are counterproductive because they increase friction: narrow tires like 2cv are needed (we understand that this choice is due to the choice of integrating motors into the wheels.
In addition, this concept considerably increases the unsprung masses, which is not very good for handling on degraded surfaces ...
the management of the wheel motors should not be sad either (their speed varies in bends) ...

Efficient electric cars? No problem if you have the necessary "small change" ...:
http://www.teslamotors.com/
it accelerates like a Porsche 911, but it costs just as much ...

Acceleration has never been a problem with an electric motor because the torque of an electric motor is maximum from low speeds, while a piston engine is between medium and high speed and almost nothing at low speed. ..the problem is always the same for more than a century: the batteries ... (the first car to have passed 100km / h was the "never content", an electric car, in 1898) ...
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by denis » 25/01/08, 16:21

Chatham wrote:Interesting concept, although the 8 wheels are counterproductive because they increase friction: narrow tires like 2cv are needed (we understand that this choice is due to the choice of integrating motors into the wheels.
In addition, this concept considerably increases the unsprung masses, which is not very good for handling on degraded surfaces ...
the management of the wheel motors should not be sad either (their speed varies in bends) ...

Efficient electric cars? No problem if you have the necessary "small change" ...:
http://www.teslamotors.com/
it accelerates like a Porsche 911, but it costs just as much ...

Acceleration has never been a problem with an electric motor because the torque of an electric motor is maximum from low speeds, while a piston engine is between medium and high speed and almost nothing at low speed. ..the problem is always the same for more than a century: the batteries ... (the first car to have passed 100km / h was the "never content", an electric car, in 1898) ...


for handling it should not be bad, the giroscopic effect can also stabilize at high speed, for the mass it is very well distributed, and very low center of gravity: the top
for ever happy, it was a recort at the time, the progress would have been identical in electrical that what was done in termique we would not be there!
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by Chatham » 25/01/08, 18:42

denis wrote:for handling it should not be bad, the giroscopic effect can also stabilize at high speed, for the mass it is very well distributed, and very low center of gravity: the top
for ever happy, it was a recort at the time, the progress would have been identical in electrical that what was done in termique we would not be there!


This requires additional information: manufacturers are going out of their way to reduce unsprung masses (e.g. aluminum hubs and suspension arms, magnesium wheels, ceramic brakes on very high-end Porsches and BMWs) to improve the grip of the wheels on bad surface, if we increase the masses, in this case considerably, the wheels will have a tendency to "jump", therefore to lose grip (a bit like on old cars with rigid axles) ... fortunately there are 8 because otherwise it would quickly end in a "free figure" in the scenery on a small bumpy and slippery road : Cheesy:
What has always held back electric cars is batteries, not motors, and progress in this area is slow and very difficult, especially if you want an economically acceptable product (on satellites it's been a long time since has high capacity / wattage batteries, but at an exciting price) ...
As for progress in heat engines, you should know that from a mechanical point of view, almost everything had already been invented as early as ~ 1935 ...
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by denis » 26/01/08, 03:08

"" that requires additional information: manufacturers are going out of their way to reduce unsprung masses (eg aluminum hubs and suspension arms, magnesium wheels, ceramic brakes on very high-end Porsches and BMWs) to improve the grip of the wheels on bad surfaces, if the masses are increased, in this case considerably, the wheels will have a tendency to "jump", therefore to lose grip (a bit like on the old ones. cars with rigid axles) ... fortunately there are 8 of them because otherwise it would quickly end in "free figure" in the scenery on a small bumpy and slippery road ""

I am not quite in tune (wrong?) the unsprung weight does not make the wheel jump, but on the contrary prevents it from being jumped, so to follow the hollow or pothole hole (even if there are not many hens left on the road !! : Cry: )
try to take a 125 diameter grinder, put a grinded disc of large 220 a little worn or one of 180 starts up (without casing of course !!! : Cheesy: ) try to move your grinder .... you'll understand! : very high resistance to movement !!
the fact of having 8 wheels of 145 and much better in this case than 4 wheels of 225 like any big car going at these speeds! no loss of time so ...
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by Flytox » 26/01/08, 21:17

Hello Denis

denis wrote:I am not quite in tune (wrong?) the unsprung weight does not make the wheel jump, but on the contrary prevents it from being jumped, so to follow the hollow or pothole hole (even if there are not many hens left on the road !! : Cry: )
try to take a 125 diameter grinder, put a grinded disc of large 220 a little worn or one of 180 starts up (without casing of course !!! : Cheesy: ) try to move your grinder .... you'll understand! : very high resistance to movement !!
the fact of having 8 wheels of 145 and much better in this case than 4 wheels of 225 like any big car going at these speeds! no loss of time so ...


If your wheels no longer jump .... it's as if you had no more suspensions .... so when there is a bump, the car jumps .... for comfort it is like a wooden chair and for road holding does not exceed 30 Km / h ....

It is necessary that the unsprung masses are "light" compared to the rest of the vehicle, suddenly the shocks of the road are transmitted to the wheel and not to the car and the shock absorbers are responsible for dissipating the energy of the shock during of the trigger (return to the equilibrium position).

For the gyroscopic effect of your disc grinder, observe all the possible movements in relation to the plane on which the disc rotates. If I'm not mistaken, upset movements are rotations. Translations are not upset. : Mrgreen:

Coming back to the car, the gyroscopic effect is felt on the heading which "should" improve with the speed (but the steering wheel must become harder), no action in the vertical plane (that of the suspensions), no action in the direction of movement of the vehicle (that's not what absorbs the power).
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by oliburn » 27/01/08, 09:47

AMHA ... this crate was not designed in five minutes, the last
model passes 400 km / h ... some engineers and specialists
automobiles had to weigh the pros and cons
before the final design !!!! the 8 wheels have surely an interest ...
the power of an electric motor is proportional to its size,
in comparison, a heat engine can at equal volume
go from 50 to 500 hp, so large wheels that
would surely have drawbacks ...
this parameter perhaps explains the number of wheels?
the future electric F1 cars will have maybe 10 wheels? : Mrgreen:
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