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by dedeleco » 30/05/12, 22:30

Dedeleco is right.

No, not me, it is Faraday and Ohm, and many others, which are right, because the scientific theory, is a summary or synthesis, of thousands of reproducible researches and works, and not of the dream at all !!

It is necessary to make the converter or switching power supply transforming the very variable voltage of the wind turbine, from 2V to 100V and more, into a roughly constant voltage like that of a photovoltaic panel.

The usual switching power supply transforms a fairly stable voltage, such as 220V into another very stable voltage, such as 12V, 5V or 18V, as for the PC power supply, and you have to make one that accepts any voltage at the input. , to give a voltage output of about 24V (for example) with little stability (to a few volts), which is quite easy, but not at all common among power manufacturers!

GTI or other machines for wind turbines do not fulfill these conditions, with detailed and clear specifications (none of valid) and therefore are perfectly unable to pull the mppt of a wind turbine a little whimsical, like the wind!


A switching power supply is only a switch, transistor, and a self-coil, as for a car ignition, with some capacitors and filter coils.
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by Obamot » 30/05/12, 22:47

Ruthenian wrote:Dedeleco is right


Do not tell him that unfortunate! : Mrgreen: : Cheesy:
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by dedeleco » 31/05/12, 00:41

Obamot wrote:
Ruthenian wrote:Dedeleco is right


Do not tell him that unfortunate! : Mrgreen: : Cheesy:


Ah, Obamot, did not digest the radioactive bananas, which in fact are not at all, with this damn potassium 40, remembering our origin of a supernova, 5 billion years ago.

No more than the harmonic 10 20 Hertz (harmonic 1 he calls zero in a beautiful salad) equal according to him to 20480 Hertz instead of 200 Hertz !!

No more than he has finished ruminating a beautiful collection of remarks, varied, the kind, did not understand, please read the courses.

etc ...
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by Obamot » 31/05/12, 01:04

Well, no, I do not really care.

Besides, it is myself who published these figures on chiquita! :D

As for the harmonics, what is your interest to remember this unglamorous episode of one of your most beautiful hiccups?

: Mrgreen: : Cheesy:
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by plasmanu » 31/05/12, 06:57

If we take 1 to 3 stuff like this:
1 by phase rectified (3 all)
ou1 for 3 phases (a bit light)
The output voltage is adjustable.
And the wind turbine comes out 8v straightened by turning barely.

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Convertisseur-Transf ... 0631035880
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by dedeleco » 31/05/12, 13:06

The three-phase recovery of 3 sets is much more efficient, because it avoids the capacitors big, unreliable and expensive enough for strong current !!!
So not straightening each separate phase is crucial .

Otherwise this rudimentary power supply, can work with a stronger current, without the LM1577 / LM2577, just by putting another controller and more powerful transistors and radiator larger area.

Will not work when the eolioenne voltage is higher than the output voltage as 40V to 12V or 24V. because boost step up !!!


One could also incorporate the recovery in the power supply by straightening with the transistors, which increases the yield, but more complex to understand and achieve.

Well to learn the basics of electronics with such power 18 €, especially to see its weaknesses (rudimentary, not powerful enough, without any microprocessor, poor regulation quality, etc.)
diagram :
http://www.nbglin.com/dc.htm
http://www.nbgelin.com/download/LM2577.pdf

LM1577 / LM2577
SIMPLE SWITCHER® Step-Up Voltage Regulator

Input: 3.5V - 40V DC
Output: 65V DC, 3A
Control range: 5V - 55V variable output
Internal oscillator: 52kHz
Panel dimensions: 48 x 35mm
Weight: 34g
NOTE: We do not offer installation advice or technical support for this product. For more information,

Features:
- Requires few external components
- NPN output switches maximum 3A, can stand off 65V
(Attention: load current forever not exceed 3A or load short circuit, this output is more likely to burn out, Output Voltage more high,
- Wide input voltage range: 3.5V to 40V
- Range of regulation: 5 to 55 Volts Variable Output
- 52 kHz internal oscillator
- Soft-start function decreases in-rush current during start-up
- Output switch protected by current limit, under-voltage lockout, and thermal shutdown



It is also necessary to measure the characteristics in charge of this power supply to know if they are adapted to the mmpt and the GTI, (equivalent internal resistance, etc.)

So buy only one power supply, or even recover one to the case for PC or laptop, or other to tinker.
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by dedeleco » 31/05/12, 19:12

This integrated circuit with external transistor should be suitable, because buck boost from 3 to 75V:

http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm5118.pdf
http://www.ti.com/product/LM5118
http://webench.national.com/en/power/bu ... uctor.html

To read carefully, there must be boards all done.
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by dedeleco » 01/06/12, 13:39

The solution, just copy, Understanding nonetheless.

One study that did the work of developing this type of power supply to 4V 70V,:

http://digitalcommons.calpoly.edu/cgi/v ... ntext=eesp

designed to recover energy physque an exercise bike when braking.


Other information about the LM5118:
http://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachme ... LM5118.pdf
http://www.epdonthenet.net/article/1642 ... input.aspx
http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm5118.pdf




Create an efficient buck-boost converter That ADAPTS to input voltage range from ~ 3.8V to 70V,
and outputs 13.7V DC,
the voltage required by a load controller to charge battery

The converter shoulds help Reduce the net power consumption of the exercise machine
used in the Cal Poly gym


Even tinkering simply:

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