Heat generator vortex and cavitation

[Tagor]

Hello,

Having been exposed to cavitation during my PRO, I can certify that this system is just viable ......
Indeed we forget too often to say that even if it works properly, the life will be short and even very short.
Example: the life of a torpedo propeller is less than ten shots because the blades are abraded by cavitation at almost 20.000 rpm.
It is difficult to modify these pumps because cavitation is a judicious compromise between the mass of the pumped liquid, the size of the pump holes, the speed of rotation, and the thickness of the liquid layer between the handwheel and the body. pump (is actually the viscosity of the liquid)
Any modification leads to a new mechanical part .....

Obelix

then the commercialization of this type of device is based
on a lie?

[elephant]

then the commercialization of this type of device is based
on a lie

I'm not really surprised!

[Christophe]

I will be close to participate in the tests but must we go through the loustic that rages here?

can we contact this user?

can the operating conditions of the pump be easily changed?

I just invited him to come here to debate

Having an "independent" testimony is already an exceptional thing given the specificity of the technology!

[Christophe]

Example: the life of a torpedo propeller is less than ten shots because the blades are abraded by cavitation at almost 20.000 rpm.

On the bottom I agree but the example of the torpedo is a little bad choice since it is supposed to be fired ... only once no?

It's a bit like the lifespan of the thruster nozzles of a missile ... if it is only 2 or 3 times the autonomy of said missile, it is not very serious ... elsewhere it seems to me that certain thrusters, French in particular, are "destructive" as the missile advances (destruction by the temperature of the walls in order to obtain a new thrust by another chemical product).

[Tagor]

then the commercialization of this type of device is based
on a lie

I'm not really surprised!

this greatly reinforces the first impression I had
in view of the sleazy individual who calls himself the cavitation specialist
and suddenly seems to disappear ...
when we are in love with something concrete!

that said, we start to rediscover little by little legends
who have proven themselves and who will be able to lead?

[Obelix]

Hello,

Go one more layer!
Well the example of the torpedo is not the most famous, but it exposes the problem!
The cavitation heat pump works !! Even rather well !! The COP of three do not seem too wacky !!

BUT for how long? There is the question !
Let's say about a day before the COP starts to evolve unfavorably and a good month before we forget to talk ......
After that it is only a question of commercial and maintenance service ......

Obelix

[Christophe]

The cavitation heat pump works !! Even rather well !! The COP of three do not seem too wacky !!

Where would the energy surplus come from then?
Matter that wears out?

BUT for how long? There is the question !
Let's say about a day before the COP starts to evolve unfavorably and a good month before we forget to talk ......

Okay that seems to support my question: it's the metal that goes crazy ...

[Tagor]

Okay that seems to support my question: it's the metal that goes crazy ...

if it is the metal torn out that provides the energy the system does not present
no interest

if it's a nuclear reaction or something else, it's necessary to define
better what is happening in order to make the COP stable over time

in any case the marketing of this product, without this
approach in the lab, looks like a scam

[bolt]

Hello

If I understand the principle:

it is emptiness that appears in the liquid at a given moment

this void must be filled at once (very brutally) is what is supposed to produce energy:
the energy produced by the "implosion" must be greater than the energy required to create the "vacuum" within the liquid

But for that, it is essential that the liquid in question (water) be perfectly untied for if there remains, if only a small chouillat, air or dissolved gas:

during the formation of "cavitations", they are not empty enough

and the implosion is then amortized by the tiny volume of gas, which itself is elastically compressible

the implosion is no longer brutal enough to produce "free energy", hence COP of only 1

the most difficult is to optimize the outgassing to the maximum

bolt

[Christophe]

if it is a nuclear reaction or other, it is necessary to better define what is happening in order to make the COP stable over time

Nuclear reaction? Sonoluminescence? Cavitation?

In this regard, here is a doc available today for download but about the Gillier-Pantone reactor: https://www.econologie.com/explication-t ... -3551.html

It is a "new theory" in addition to that of JR on ionization! Maybe one day we will come to unify everything ...