Electronuclear flexibility (excluding subject wind)

[sicetaitsimple]

the nucleus?

Can you quote a sentence or someone was surprised or sneered?

[Did67]

I would not want to be too brittle, but putting mirrors or PV in the desert is not likely to have much impact on the production of cacti and pseudo-breeding of skinny camels ... neocolonialism?

"skinny camels ..." "not much impact" judges the foreign specialist ...

And everything is said!

[Do you want me to come and install my panels on a piece of wasteland that belongs to you? On a meager Livradois meadow, which I consider insignificant in terms of forage production?]

[I knock because this state of mind, whether it comes from sores, hard-core ecologists, Jesuits or whoever I know, hits me deeply. And yes, it remains colonialism mental - what the other has is "poor", "skinny", and therefore not worth anything, and therefore we have the right to occupy it, to settle. His home. We think of happiness in its place. If at home, he prefers to wander with skinny camels, well he is wrong! Ecology, in this case renewable energies, as a new religion? In the past, the Jesuits were sent in the name of cultural and religious superiority. These poor savages had to be brought back to God's flock ... Today, it is PV engineers who are bringing these poor igonrant camel drivers back to the path of progress ... In the name of technological superiority ... y: to save humanity and its supply to its growing energy needs ...]

[Even if the question of the "representative authorities" of a people is always complex, this, obviously, does not make sense if it is Algerians who "develop" a part of their Sahara to install PV plants there. I am not against any form of VP in the Sahara on principle!]

[Remundo]

Did, it's interesting, but you're in philosophy,

in my region there are indeed ridges to be fitted with PV + wind turbines, per km² without inconvenience for breeding. But it is only anecdotal. As for the desert, we would definitely do what we want to do, except if we have feelings for the grains of sand.

Nobody realizes the structural fossil depletion that hangs in our face, of the order of 3-4% / year. At the same time, the overpopulation of poor countries and stupidity in rich countries where the population will not even be able to feed themselves despite the fertility of their land in the event of a shortage of energy.

In short, the time is no longer to philosophize, but to vigorously initiate an energy transition. Any renewable kWh will be good to take.

[Ahmed]

In short, the time is no longer to philosophize ...

Because there was a time to do it?
Another remark, I see that you conveniently summon the population of poor countries, as if that was their problem (in energy matters). I remember that (roughly) 80% of the world's population takes only 20% of the resources ...

[Remundo]

I'm not calling anyone.

It is moreover rather the (over) poor populations who invite themselves elsewhere without authorization; if there is no sustainable co-development, the situation will become more and more unmanageable for them as well as for us.

[dede2002]

"Sustainable co-development" would mean getting all those who are "to be developed" (80% of people) to consume as much as we (20% of people) who consume 5 times more than them. .

It is logical that it is unmanageable

[Remundo]

no, that means making everyone consume reasonably. Find a balance between misery and superfluity.

[sicetaitsimple]

Aren't you off topic here? Shouldn't another thread be opened?

[Did67]

Did, it's interesting, but you're in philosophy,

in my region there are indeed ridges to be fitted with PV + wind turbines, per km² without inconvenience for breeding. But it is only anecdotal. As for the desert, we would definitely do what we want to do, except if we have feelings for the grains of sand.

Nobody realizes the structural fossil depletion that hangs in our face, of the order of 3-4% / year. At the same time, the overpopulation of poor countries and stupidity in rich countries where the population will not even be able to feed themselves despite the fertility of their land in the event of a shortage of energy.

In short, the time is no longer to philosophize, but to vigorously initiate an energy transition. Any renewable kWh will be good to take.

I don't do philosophy. I practice law. These lands belong to someone. And even if they are only occupied in nomadic form, it is a mistake to believe that they are "grains of sand"!

I will tell you a personal memory. I was in Tanezrouft in 1980. A sort of desert of deserts, mainly stony, in the south of the Algerian Sahara [the Sahara, it is only rarely dunes]. We had stopped our 2CV to have a snack. And then at one point, one of us seems to spot a "walker" (not those of macron) in the vastness, very far away. We take out our binoculars, and indeed, a Tuareg, holding a few camels on a leash, at the queuleuleu, was walking alone, in the direction of I do not know where ...

The solution of OUR problems will not be done durably with OUR solutions parachuted, imposed, on OTHERS ... And the urgency in which we did not care does not allow us to impose our point of view on others.

We have the right to be right all alone AT HOME!

There is never a good reason to impose yourself on others. Unless you are a dictator (or at least, a provocateur like the other there, in the States) ...

It is not philosophy, but something much more essential: it is ethics!

I have wondered a lot about the right to interfere, in the event that governments exterminate their people (or more often, certain ethnic groups). I ended up being in favor, but it is not simple! energy does not justify giving ourselves territories ...

To relax a little: http://www.legorafi.fr/2014/04/24/une-g ... cend-deux/

[sicetaitsimple]

I suggest for the new thread that Remundo will not fail to create because here we are really outside the subject of "nuclear flexibility" the title "Siemens and Deutsche Bank to the rescue of the Sahara and its populations" ....