Wind power: for or against the wind?

[Did67]

Just to finish clarifying my point of view: a fact (scientific or statistical data or a simple fact) is. That's all.

E = mc² is.

It is what we do with it that qualifies it.

If I made an A-bomb (and it was), I can regret the thousands of deaths. And I can reasonably advocate that "never again ..."

If I made a device for treating cancer by dosed and targeted irradiation, I wouldn't necessarily be against it.

So the fact or the argument is.

What it is used for remains subject to debate ... Even what we draw from the facts ...

[In other words, there is science - which establishes facts, verifiable, reproducible, etc. - and scientism which deduces from it that science is always good and always right, no longer in the sense of facts, but in the ethical sense, or moral; while there is a political choice - in the sense of polis, the city: the group of humans concerned makes a choice; these choices are sometimes confiscated by those in the know, which does not prevent them from having their interest].

This is why I easily admit facts. And that I correct myself when I was wrong.

But I do not necessarily accept what we draw as conclusions.

[moinsdewatt]

Are you sure that ERDF does not take into account only "internal" consumption, that distributed on the French network? A certain number of French nuclear power plants have "contracts" with foreign electricians, or even are co-financed ... We should say "nuclear power plants located in France and operated by EdF".

It is a hypothesis.

The Fessenheim plant has such a contract with its neighbors.

[Did67]

If I made an A-bomb (and it was), I can regret the thousands of deaths. And I can reasonably advocate that "never again ..."

Let us push the reasoning. The fact E = mc² is therefore a fact.

Clever strategists "exploit" this equation to make bombs. From their point of view and from the point of view of those who support them, E = mc² is a great thing ...

And they will try to convince those who finance all this with taxes, the citizens.

Hitler was not, from his point of view, so lucky, although German (but partly Jewish) scholars significantly contributed to the discovery of this formula and its concrete implementation.

The other freak in North Korea openly laughs at the nose and beard of a fool of Trump ... [which, it should be noted, one can make fun of inexpensively: a little imagination is enough; when he speaks, imagine he has a red nose!]

So I think it is a duty to "scratch". Or, in other words, that listening to the song that the "pro-this" want to whisper to us, is not enough.

Of course, on the example of the bomb, I develop the truism.

But I think the moral applies to nuclear power, as an "oligarchy" tries to do its business, if possible without properly informing the population.

So, no, I don't "believe" a priori those who tell me that nuclear energy is great, clean, perfect ... Move around, there's nothing to do ... Nothing to discuss.

But I try not to use arguments that are indeed false. And when I do, I correct myself.

And I try to start by reducing my consumption. I turn off the lights. I replace (when it's reasonable) devices with other less greedy ones. I try to avoid "vigils". I prefer wood to electricity for heating (even if I have an electric oven!), For hot water (solar water heater + pellet boiler), for hot water in the washing machine (double entry), etc ... But I do not yet have a photovoltaic installation and no electric vehicle ... I was part of a management team that installed one of the very first methanization units in Alsace. ..

[moinsdewatt]

New wind record at 8.445 GW on Sunday March 05, 2017 at 12:45 p.m.

I had not seen the day of 27 February!

New wind record at 9.132 GW on Sunday 27 February 2017 at 13h30

and as a bonus 2.541 GW solar PV

New wind record at 9.416 GW on Thursday 23 November 2017 at 04h30

New wind record at 9.507 GW on Thursday 14 December 2017 at 0h45


http://www.rte-france.com/fr/eco2mix/ec ... nergetique

[moinsdewatt]

Had to think about it!

The first telescopic offshore wind turbine takes shape in Spain

Posted on 21 / 12 / 2017 lemarin.fr

Developed in the Canaries, the Elisa-Elican project aims to build a 5 MW offshore wind turbine based on a gravity foundation and equipped with a telescopic mast.




The Dutch company Ale has just installed the second section of the telescopic mast. (Photo: Ale)

http://www.lemarin.fr/secteurs-activite ... d-forme-en

[Remundo]

I'm a bit skeptical about sitting on the bottom of the water ... it can not hold that not gravity, it takes anchoring ... unless they pour concrete around?

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Definitely nothing is perfect ... I learned this morning on the radio that wind turbines are particularly deadly for bats ....

We will never get out ...

[Did67]

I'm a bit skeptical about sitting on the bottom of the water ... it can not hold that not gravity, it takes anchoring ... unless they pour concrete around?

I guess they have calculated and they know how to do it.

But indeed, it is hollow, then fills with water on arrival. So there is only the weight of the structure above the water + the difference in density for the material underwater.

[Remundo]

filling the ballast with water does not give any foundation in the water ... it is as if they were filled with air in the air ...

there is something missing in the diagrams.

[sicetaitsimple]

Indeed, the so-called gravity foundations are ballasted by different techniques: cast iron blocks incorporated into the structure, filling with sand, etc.