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by The wind will Carry Us » 17/10/08, 16:27

Hello,

I come on this forum somewhat by accident, I admit. I too share this passion for renewable energy, I don't understand why we don't all get started right away!

I work for a company specializing in offshore. there is a huge global windfall. Our problem is migratory birds, because there aren't many neighbors ... in short.

In France there is a big offshore potential and I am looking for serious French partners to be the first to do it. there will be as many as it is us. But beware, it sounds like rampant capitalist language, but it isn't, let's be clear. We all have to win in wind power. Mentalities have to change and it will come.

As for the debate on Chinese wind turbines, I will not participate. We have closer partners, at the end of the day there is no "useless" transport from China less pollution, more local employment and everyone is happy.

I am open to any other debate on the other hand, on your ambitions, your radius of action, your experience in the matter and maybe we will one day be able to go a long way together.

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by ecologik » 26/11/08, 22:47

Hello,

I allow myself to share my experiences as an installer.

We installed the 200, 2500 and 10000W shenzu (Chinese) models and we had every conceivable problem.

The last one was asked in March 2008 and we are still modifying it (6 breakdowns), the supplier's after-sales service is non-existent (only importers who do not know their products).

Good, to settle the concerns of the 2kW wind turbine in 120V.
First, it is a three-phase synchronous generator with voltage and frequency variable with speed. Overall it is expected to produce between 70Vac and 150Vac between phases. The original regulator works, it triggers the overload at 150Vac and cuts the load below 90Vac. However is very unsatisfactory, because the batteries are rarely charged and the fact of being in 120Vdc does not facilitate the choice of equipment (inverters, chargers ...).

What we did (under test):
We connected the output of the rectifier to an MPPT regulator (15 to 150Vdc) with a smoothing capacitor.
We are going out on a 24 or 48Vdc battery park (here 24Vdc).
We have added a short circuit switch.
We obtain:
A stable, longer and stronger battery charge (27Vdc).
Low wind and low speed production.
Less vibration in the generator due to the better controlled speed and the generator is not connected and disconnected without stopping.
An economy on the non-consumption of the rectifier which goes out when the wind stops.
Reliable measurement of kWh produced.
High-performance local equipment for inverters (Mastervolt, Studer ... etc)

to follow on this project.

Rq: we no longer ask Chinese and we do not recommend it, especially for its lack of after-sales service and compatibility with use.


FYI, France Aeolian, Joliet, Eolution, ... etc do not advise, they do not analyze the feasibility they do not test, they sell.
A site on the small wind turbine, type: "Krug SARL"

Opinion: It is not the sellers who sell shit, at cheap prices that must be accused, but the customers who have always refused to buy quality and claimed the cheapest at all prices.
A 10kW wind turbine does not cost € 20 (France wind turbine), but € 000 (Krug, Alizé model), which is cheaper than solar. we must not delude ourselves.
I do not think this subject is isolated, the same for a car or a house.

Good luck to all.
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by Jean BERNARD » 17/12/08, 17:33

Surprising. I just sent two messages. I note that the installer who mounted, at my request, the Shenzou 2kw wind turbine also sent a message in which he explains the tests he is doing to optimize my installation. I appreciate his work but I agree we cannot do miracles with perhaps dubious equipment. On the other hand, I do not agree when he says that the buyer is the culprit of these mishaps. It is the importers or resellers who are dishonest. I had to do in France éolienne, I almost did worse if I heard the opinion by buying a 5KW. It is the 5 France-Aeolian wind turbines from St Brieuc which are beautiful but which did not turn which made me doubt their competence. Then I had to do in Odislor, I even visited a facility in Carhaix, I signed up with them but they stopped the wind turbine. Then, I had a concact with Eolution who supplied me with the wind turbine. This has been installed with care and skill by Elocologik. They even repaired the wire that was severed inside the wind turbine. Certainly, Elecologik had offered me other more reliable but more expensive equipment. However, I made the choice of Chinese material from all the documentation of France-Eolioenne, Odislor, Evolution, Joliet. The wind turbines had different names but in fact they are all Shenzou or at least Chinese. So I consider that I was deceived on the product and on what suggests the bookings: savings and semi-autonomy ... Admittedly, it is beautiful but if it continues, it will be a still life which will cost me 9000 euros (batteries and installation included). The reason is that I stop spending more ..... but that is not to say that we must give up, not to get reimbursed but to stop this market .... and there you have to be several to do it and gather as much information as possible.
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by Christophe » 17/12/08, 17:37

If Chinese wind turbines do not keep their promises and the
importers laugh at you and don't give a damn when it comes to guarantees, so get together and contact:

a) The UFC What to Choose: http://www.quechoisir.org/
b) The Directorate General for Competition,
consumption and repression of fraud
DGCCRF: http://www.dgccrf.bercy.gouv.fr/

Obviously, the importer must be established in France ...
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by ecologik » 17/12/08, 18:04

We have just installed a Whisper 200 wind turbine (1000W, 24Vdc), American, 5 year warranty, € 5000 including VAT (excluding batteries and inverter), on Poligné.

It turns wonderfully. I'm sure it produces more than the 2500W of France wind ...

We remain convinced that what is necessary is to develop your own product, local, artisanal and with amazing follow-up and clarity.

(Project 2009/2011).

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by eol77 » 17/12/08, 18:04

Good evening

I may be doing a stir on the subject.

I finished installing my 10 kw SHENZOU also a month ago!

c is a clock, nothing to say, it produces as it should do!

I currently connected all my lighting and all the sockets in my house, and with 20 batteries at the moment, I am autonomous on these power supplies !!!!!

As you will see on my blog, I bought directly from the factory in China.
I regularly have the commercial by email because he wants to follow my wind turbine, to know if I have elec, meca and other concerns.

I tell you again ....... it is a clock !!!!

I had 3 days of strong wind and I put 8 kw without it balking.

not the slightest concern, and if that should happen my Chinese correspondent agrees to deliver me the material which would be free of charge as soon as possible.

it’s sav, it’s not like with resellers !!!!!!

to believe that they do not sell the same stuff to FE, JOLIET, ETC !!!!

here is my blog:

http://energie-eolienne.kazeo.com


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by tremel » 30/07/09, 23:29

hello, new to the site I want to invest in a 3kw Chinese wind turbine or the Canadian skytream 3,7. I think there are 2 different machines in the quality of manufacturing q think about it and how to import the machine directly do you have any leads
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by elephant » 31/07/09, 09:11

Personally, I would not be too enthusiastic to pay the Chinese in advance ..... (Unless you have favorable feedback)

Anyway, if they agree to deliver you ...
You order
They calculate the price in dollars, including shipping costs and give you their bank details.
You're going to see your bank branch.
When they got your money, They send
When the stuff has arrived in France (I suppose that is the case), a customs agency will contact you so that you pay the VAT and the entry fees and the delivery costs in France.
You pay the customs agency
When they get their money, they'll deliver you.

Do not forget to specify when ordering that you are private or subject to VAT.

Realize that it will take 3 to 4 weeks and that you will have 35% VAT + duties. Nothing prevents you from contacting a customs agency to confirm costs.
Please note that the goods often travel at the buyer's expense and risk.
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by elephant » 31/07/09, 09:12

Ah yes: it is not excluded that they send you back to their importer if the latter has an exclusive contract, which is quite normal.
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by Soreo » 31/07/09, 11:39

Hello everybody

This discussion gives me real pleasure, wind power which, whatever one may say, remains a "complicated" renewable energy because of the investments and the scale of the installation, is in real boom and this even among individuals.

This democratization is a very positive signal for the years to come.

Long live wind, long live renewable energies.

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