A hydrogen boat !!!
Voila, let’s explain, I’m going to have a 23-meter explorer-type boat (which is not moving fast but surely between 12 and 15 nx). I explain the idea that I would like to exploit with you. By coupling a 2KW wind turbine, see two: dimension 2 m height X 4 m in diameter, one should without problem produce enough electricity to produce hydrogen in order to run a hybrid electric / hydrogen engine. I would like in this adventure that people can help me not to forget certain criteria which could be fatal to the proper functioning of this project. So do not hesitate to make me remarks and criticisms, be indulgent towards my deficiencies (see worse) I just need enthusiasts who think we can do it despite those opposite who are not for (but more stubborn than a Norman, you don't think).
March 66
PS: thanks to ncl for its site and its help
A hydrogen boat? WHY NOT
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I also forgot to ask if someone can explain to me in simple terms the subject circulating on the new electrolysis process invented by NAOHIRO SHIMIZU.
Thank you in advance
Mars66
Thank you in advance
Mars66
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+1 chatam ...
I specify: https://www.econologie.com/electrolyse-p ... -3747.html
45% yield AT BEST - page 422- but we can clearly see the interest of the pulsation!
Obelix wrote:Site: econology, section: downloads, date: 20/03
Title: High frequency pulsed electrolysis
Obtained less than 3 Wh / Liter !!
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I specify: https://www.econologie.com/electrolyse-p ... -3747.html
45% yield AT BEST - page 422- but we can clearly see the interest of the pulsation!
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Hi Mars66,
First of all, you should know that hydrogen is difficult to produce, and even more difficult to store. It is also dangerous because its contact with the air makes it explode. Explicit video and explanations here:
http://ww3.ac-poitiers.fr/sc_phys/cyber ... /NaH2O.htm
I think that for a ship, the "hydrogen" storage intermediary is not necessary. Indeed, it would be necessary to go through an electrolysis and a storage in compressed form of very mediocre yields ... Moreover, it is very technical and sophisticated for an uncertain result ...
It seems to me much more judicious to couple your wind turbines via a generator of direct current on batteries to charge. You will be able to meet all your electrical needs, including cooking, lights ...
In addition, wind turbines, even of 4 kW, have a very insufficient power to move a boat of 23 m. The energy autonomy of the batteries will probably also be very insufficient. A good 100 kW diesel engine with a 500 L tank seems a lot better to me.
To save fuel, and if you are a sailor, nothing prevents you from providing a mast with sail. It would be a wind / diesel hybrid. But on that, my mountain skills remain almost zero.
Otherwise, you're really a fan of hydrogen, you have to couple your wind turbines with a fuel cell. But it is an extremely ambitious, expensive and not necessarily energy efficient route ...
@ + and all my encouragement for your project!
First of all, you should know that hydrogen is difficult to produce, and even more difficult to store. It is also dangerous because its contact with the air makes it explode. Explicit video and explanations here:
http://ww3.ac-poitiers.fr/sc_phys/cyber ... /NaH2O.htm
I think that for a ship, the "hydrogen" storage intermediary is not necessary. Indeed, it would be necessary to go through an electrolysis and a storage in compressed form of very mediocre yields ... Moreover, it is very technical and sophisticated for an uncertain result ...
It seems to me much more judicious to couple your wind turbines via a generator of direct current on batteries to charge. You will be able to meet all your electrical needs, including cooking, lights ...
In addition, wind turbines, even of 4 kW, have a very insufficient power to move a boat of 23 m. The energy autonomy of the batteries will probably also be very insufficient. A good 100 kW diesel engine with a 500 L tank seems a lot better to me.
To save fuel, and if you are a sailor, nothing prevents you from providing a mast with sail. It would be a wind / diesel hybrid. But on that, my mountain skills remain almost zero.
Otherwise, you're really a fan of hydrogen, you have to couple your wind turbines with a fuel cell. But it is an extremely ambitious, expensive and not necessarily energy efficient route ...
@ + and all my encouragement for your project!
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Remundo,
thank you for the info, I had already seen this video via I do not know who had spoken about it, thank you anyway. Concerning hydrogen, I do not seek to store it but to produce it directly and in case of wind failure it is a group which takes over. FYI, I will send you a link on youtube about an American who has just developed a completely autonomous house. In my project, of course there will be batteries that will be charged by the wind turbines but it is true that I have not talked about it.
AND THANKS TO YOU FOR YOUR ENCOURAGEMENT.
Obelix,
thanks for the link, I had it but my english is so poor that I asked more a general course on the principle.
Thanks to you anyway.
chatan,
Thank you for this judicious remark, now and thanks to you, everyone meets that you are our guide a light what !!!
TO CONCLUDE: we should dig deeper, but the general opinion would be to tell me that it may not be possible.
I will link you to youtube and love your review after you watch it. I also invite you to type "energy free" "hydrogen" and HH2 on the same site, some with small reactors have managed to start engines. It is from there that I worked on the subject.
In any case, thank you all and see you soon.
Martial
thank you for the info, I had already seen this video via I do not know who had spoken about it, thank you anyway. Concerning hydrogen, I do not seek to store it but to produce it directly and in case of wind failure it is a group which takes over. FYI, I will send you a link on youtube about an American who has just developed a completely autonomous house. In my project, of course there will be batteries that will be charged by the wind turbines but it is true that I have not talked about it.
AND THANKS TO YOU FOR YOUR ENCOURAGEMENT.
Obelix,
thanks for the link, I had it but my english is so poor that I asked more a general course on the principle.
Thanks to you anyway.
chatan,
Thank you for this judicious remark, now and thanks to you, everyone meets that you are our guide a light what !!!
TO CONCLUDE: we should dig deeper, but the general opinion would be to tell me that it may not be possible.
I will link you to youtube and love your review after you watch it. I also invite you to type "energy free" "hydrogen" and HH2 on the same site, some with small reactors have managed to start engines. It is from there that I worked on the subject.
In any case, thank you all and see you soon.
Martial
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mars66 wrote:chatan,
Thank you for this judicious remark, now and thanks to you, everyone meets that you are our guide a light what !!!
How much hatred in your words? Economic common sense, however, proves him right ...
You want to make a protopipo as there are tens to several million euros (public money or oil tanker sponsorship for example) with a lousy overall return just to show that we "know" how to do well, it's your choice ...
But please respect the opinions of others ... especially when they are advised ... The hydrogen fuel there is not much to expect there econologically speaking ... except maybe solar hydrogen by seeing thermodynamics but that's the method that everyone ignores ...
Do a calculation of profitability / global balance of hydrogen made from wind turbine ... better batteries ...
Jean Luc Perrier must turn around in his grave ...
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http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=U2uNMqpEwcI
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http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=U2uNMqpEwcI
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=m_21KafrwRc
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=DVpKCHoSINE
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=PobpK98xUL8
Also type as not because they have too many films:
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misterdandb (our quebecois friends)
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