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by stipe » 09/11/11, 09:51

There is talk of installing 5 wind turbines in a village near mine, our mayor is against, his arguments (concerning your questions) are: it is noisy when there is a strong wind (+ than the wind itself in the tree branches ...?), it makes infra sounds that will prevent you from sleeping, and above all (for your negotiation) he presented us with a report on real estate which said that property would lose up to 20% .

My opinion is that in Fukushima they risk nothing of radiation as long as they keep smiling (see official speech of doctors there), so a wind turbine ... : Lol:
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by Christophe » 09/11/11, 10:00

stipe wrote:He presented us with a report on real estate which said that property would lose up to 20%.


Ah interesting! Can we find it somewhere on the net this report?
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by stipe » 09/11/11, 10:22

Christophe wrote:
stipe wrote:He presented us with a report on real estate which said that property would lose up to 20%.


Ah interesting! Can we find it somewhere on the net this report?

Unfortunately, I don't believe ...

I hadn't looked at it in detail at the time, we got it on a fright to go to the town hall to sign a kind of petition ...
and here we are in the countryside, the global internet network is not yet in the habit ...
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by Christophe » 09/11/11, 10:36

Even with Google? : Cheesy:

It is not impossible that fallacious studies could be "taken out of the hat" by anti-wind turbines ...
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by Kigralin » 09/11/11, 10:39

Thank you for your answers.
For the lack of conjugation : Oops: . But I have a "very" good excuse: too many hours spent on unsavory sites : Cheesy:

An impromptu visit of the park of Igney is planned as soon as there is a little wind in the corner.
For the roads, we agree. We visited another renovated Lorraine farm, perfect for us. But it was on the edge of a departmental road, so we did not follow up.

FYI, the planned park would consist of eleven 2MW mills for 120 meters in height. Blade length: 40 meters.
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by vinzman » 11/11/11, 17:16

Indeed, the wisest, to have a clear answer to these questions, you would have to spend time next to a wind turbine of the same brand and same model as the one they will install where you think you will possibly live. And that is because we cannot compare the noise of a 10 year old wind turbine with a wind turbine made today since the technology is constantly evolving.
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by jlt22 » 11/11/11, 18:36

I am not close to wind fields.
But in my area there are several wind fields.
For some, we never heard a local resident complaining.
In one of the fields, the wind turbines were stopped at night, following complaints from local residents.
In another commune, a local resident fell ill and recognized as such (permanent migraines), after the wind farm was put into service.
It would therefore seem that certain infrasound is poorly supported by a few people.
Here is a report that talks about the different sounds made by wind turbines.
[url] http://www.bape.gouv.qc.ca/sections/mandats/eole_riv-loup/documents/DA34.pdf [quote] [/ quote] [/ url]
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by jlt22 » 11/11/11, 18:44

My previous message was sent too quickly by mistake,
So here is the link I proposed:

http://www.bape.gouv.qc.ca/sections/mandats/eole_riv-loup/documents/DA34.pdf

Note that this report was commissioned by an association of wind turbines:

http://www.ventdecolere.org/

Their arguments are in my opinion sometimes far-fetched.
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by dedeleco » 11/11/11, 19:44

Interesting this bibliographic study cited on the noise related to wind turbines:
http://www.bape.gouv.qc.ca/sections/man ... s/DA34.pdf
The effect and sensitivity of sounds is a function of the natural sound level, such as wind in the trees or highway or road a little close !!
So we support wind turbines much better near roads and highways, which are already very noisy !!

I note at my place, that the road noise and especially the highway in the silence outside, is well audible and continuous at 5Km away, especially by cold conditions on the ground (inversion of T) which send the noises towards the ground very far.
Low frequency noises carry further, because the attenuation of sounds increases with their frequency (very clear with lightning) and ADEME tells anything scientifically false.

I think we can better withstand these noises in a double-glazed and well sealed house; because the sounds are then well attenuated, even the infrasound.
But outside they remain audible in a garden.
It is less annoying with no pollution, than a nearby highway or road, which significantly shortens lives to less than 300m by heavy pollution (example of the Paris ring road).

If you are looking for total tranquility in your garden, 1 km away for wind turbines up to 120m high is certainly too small, unless in front of there are 1 km and km around, tall forests making lots of noises in the wind !!
Unfortunately, wind turbines are most often surrounded by very clear terrain, to suppress turbulence.
The infrasound could be attenuated by suppression systems, decreasing by contrast the amplitude of the pressure variations created by the wind and the blades.

Finally between wind turbines and a nuclear power plant, less than 5Km away, there is no photo, the nuclear power plants release tritium, and other things, in small non-zero quantities and especially enormously, after a Fukushima in France, inevitable early or late because men are not infallible perpetually, with then evacuation of the whole region for centuries for tens of km around, and then farewell to your very peaceful garden forever, which you thought you saved by refusing the wind turbines !! ! .
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