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by Christophe » 10/03/11, 11:27

Even no VAT on keros?

Always blue the GO fishing? Is that so? I thought it was brand new and before they used red? I even saw pumps of red ... Ah less that it was pumps for the pleasure? :?: :?: :?:

The FOD is also subject to VAT.
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by Leo Maximus » 10/03/11, 11:31

Macro wrote:... Another abbérration ... The petrol aviation private tourism supports only 35.90 € of TIC and 30.20 for the kéro avia private use. For your private displacements made like them: fly

Mmmm ..... At the aeroclub of St-Nazaire the price at the pump of the aeroclub is almost identical to that of the service stations nearby. TTC the difference is minimal I would even say zero. :?:
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by Christophe » 10/03/11, 11:34

Well I think it is that the HT share of avgas must be higher than road fuel ...

I thought it was more expensive, it must depend on the aerodromes ...

It is more additive (octane above) and better filtered I think.
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by Leo Maximus » 10/03/11, 11:46

Christophe wrote:Well I think it is that the HT share of avgas must be higher than road fuel ...

I thought it was more expensive, it must depend on the aerodromes ...

It is more additive (octane above) and better filtered I think.

In fact, I also think it is more expensive but I didn't dare say it. : Lol:

A priori, it is normal that the TIC is lower since these planes do not run on the roads, but who is responsible for maintaining the runways? The region I imagine. It is complicated.
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by Macro » 10/03/11, 14:08

Of course the octane rating of avgaz is higher than that of Sp95 the product is more expensive at the base. In addition it is very unrefined therefore often transported from very far.

For avgaz it is a product only used for leisure purposes ... At one time motorcycles and related equipment were taxed as a luxury product ...

If such leisure uses (quads, buggy, ...) and other consumers who are useless were taxed more heavily than that of the vehicle which is used to go to the taf..And if for example we taxed less the fuel of the standard vehicle 55hp / ton family vehicle compared to the SUV or 280hp sports coupe ...

The red pump in the ports is for boats other than fishing but especially not for pleasure (road diesel compulsory) except for some equipped with separate generator sets)

the French fishing diesel is a fully zero-rated product directly indexed to the cost of a barrel + refining distribution. This is why fishermen are the first to cry ...

Regarding the VAT All the pros recover it so many individuals are subject to VAT on the kéro except the final consumer of domestic flights ...
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by Leo Maximus » 11/03/11, 11:24

pb2488 wrote:Image

In order to redo the updated graphics, is the cost of refining / distribution fixed? or is it a percentage, or a little of both? :D

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by Macro » 11/03/11, 11:35

Of course not. The refining distribution part has an energy cost (gas electricity) chemicals ...) Human (labor) and logistics (transport ...) so it is not fixed and subject to increase too ...

TIC 0.642 for petrol, 0.4419 for diesel

https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... AJvMYi.doc
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by Christophe » 11/03/11, 17:05

Macro wrote:Of course not. The refining distribution part has an energy cost (gas electricity) chemicals ...) Human (labor) and logistics (transport ...) so it is not fixed and subject to increase too ...


Yes just a flat (quibble): strictly speaking, all cost is only human wages: we don’t pay anything to the oil well that we are drying, we don’t pay the mine that operates, we don’t pay for the uranium consumed ... in short we don't pay nature!

All cost is only nested wages (wages or annuities or bank interest or amortization of equipment or dividend, call whatever you want: in ALL CASES, money goes, sooner or later, to someone's pocket)!
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by Macro » 14/03/11, 08:28

Christophe wrote:Yes just a flat (quibble): strictly speaking, all cost is only human wages: we don’t pay anything to the oil well that we are drying, we don’t pay the mine that operates, we don’t pay for the uranium consumed ... in short we don't pay nature!

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Just a response ... polluter ... If we pay it in good CO² so that its green plants can do photosynthesis : Mrgreen:

What more would you like ... Maybe part of this cost is donated to organizations that deal with ecology ...

The taxes are already there for that .. TGAP for example ... Supposed to punish polluting activities to restore them to our planet..Our planet does not need money..It just needs a few billion fewer inhabitants ...
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by Christophe » 05/04/11, 10:47

Some measures to calm the people:

Gasoline

To counter the surge in the price of gasoline at the pump, the government will increase the flat rate kilometer scale by 4,6% for the taxation of 2010 revenues. This tax measure, which should especially benefit professionals who use their cars a lot, will be financed by a "special contribution" from the oil companies. A round table will be organized for this purpose in the coming days.
Europe 1 further indicates that the government is crashing on a possible "fuel check." The subject is being debated at Bercy. To finance such a fund, there is no question of creating an additional tax. The government favors financing by oil companies and gasoline distributors, including supermarkets which represent 60% of fuel sales in the country ".


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http://www.energie2007.fr/actualites/fi ... 50411.html
http://www.europe1.fr/Economie/Vers-un- ... nt-485673/
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