The non-closure of the Fessenheim plant, where is the scam of the negotiations?

[Christophe]

Bin I know "a little" the pollutants of exhaust gases and NOx are all the same one of the worst gases for human health - the weakest in particular ...

[izentrop]

Coating defects (DSR) can occur when welding the stainless steel coating when the thermal conditioning applied is not sufficient. These are planar defects perpendicular to the inner wall of the tank (see next page), corresponding to a microcracking of the steel of the tank. These defects are located in the steel of the tank just under the coating, mainly at the level of the tubings. Only certain well identified tanks are affected by this type of defect because, following their discovery in 1979, the welding process has been improved; no more DSR was observed on the tanks manufactured thereafter.

In June 2012, controls were carried out on the reactor vessel No. 3 of the Doel plant. For the first time in Belgium, the entire internal surface of the vessel in the heart zone - that is to say, the cylindrical part at the heart - has been ultrasonically inspected, as is the case in La France. These checks were designed to look for defects under coating (DSR).

According to the information brought to the attention of IRSN, these inspections revealed indications that were considered by the operator as being due to localized defects in the steel of the tank. These indications, oriented more or less parallel to the inner wall of the tank, are in very large numbers. These two elements and the localization would tend to attribute these indications to defects due to hydrogen (DDH - see figure 4); their origin could be related to the hydrogen content present in the metal during manufacture by the Dutch company RDM. It should be recalled that this company, which no longer exists today, has not manufactured ferrules for the tanks of the French power stations.

http://www.irsn.fr/FR/connaissances/Ins ... a8dd7a0c6e
Not so bad for France, unless it's sold or liars?

[Christophe]

Not sold, bought, nuance! Funny besides this abuse of language in French ... but it is true that all that is bought has been sold ...

Otherwise, we have never treated ASN or IRSN sold or liars here it seems to me ... except maybe, the Chernobyl cloud ...

We talked about Doel's concerns here: energies-fossil-nuclear / nuclear-yet-a-tank-reactor-more-too-waterproof-doel-t11970.html

ps: RDM which manufactures tanks for lack of material, this is not invented ^^

[Obamot]

Welds are a well-known problem, which are tested with ultrasound, examined under an electron microscope during "test welds" etc. All this is to put the crowds to sleep, because it has not made the tanks safer in time!

The important points include:
The migration of hydrogen atoms from the water (under pressure) of the primary circuit. It ends up making thousands of holes gnawing all the steels used for the tanks.
- and upstream, "metallurgical contaminants" which can contribute to the dissolution / embrittlement / oxidation of tub steels.
- the bad design of some reactors, which prevent the exploration of the parts to examine to make a correct diagnosis.

In short, I see that even in what Izentrop defends, he does not know a tenth of what it should.

[Did67]

Like VolksWagen pollution tests

You shouldn't be too angelic either, the German "poor" know very well how to lie when it suits them.

Yes, you're right too ...

Writing "the Germans" is of course too globalizing!

On the one hand, it was the media, and by extension, the great mass of the population, much more careful than us on environmental and nuclear issues [remember the major demonstrations against the Gorleben storage center, with thousands of people, people tied to the tracks; whereas these "beavers" had crossed France without reaction - they came from Cherbourg] ...

On the other hand, an emblematic and hegemonic group ... Like any "empire", a little above the law ... Like our nuclear empire, in short. Barely a little more than Renault [which played on the test methods, like other manufacturers, but which is still not the same as introducing software to deactivate pollution control outside the tests!]

So you're right.

NB: The danger or the risk is not of the same nature!

[PVresistif]

Fessenheim will close because it is very close to the border with Germany; when a country that generates 260 Md of trade surplus talks to a country that makes 80 Md of trade deficits that wears a little I think?
The power stations "in the heart of France", those are not dangerous, we can keep them, phew we breathe
happy Alsatians

[Christophe]

This reasoning is not consistent ... commercial scales have nothing to do with the decision to close this plant, it is his age that makes ... see this open discussion there is now more than 10 years : energies-fossil-nuclear / fessenheim-the-central-nuclear-a-30-year-t5027.html

And its closure will not necessarily arrange Germany since a large part of the electricity produced by Fessenheim is exported to Germany ...

The wiki page about closing is done: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrale_ ... Fessenheim

[Janic]

spent yesterday on RMC channel 24. Chernobyl: "the French lie" where politics endangered populations.

[yves35]

Good evening,

spent yesterday on RMC channel 24. Chernobyl: "the French lie" where politics endangered populations.

affirmative, it is like the corpse that the public authorities stashed away following the evacuation of the university of tolbiac. "They" hide everything from us, and if there is a denial, it is because there was a deception ...
All this reminds me of the articles of the chained duck of the late 60s: "exact information since denied by the Ministry of the Interior" except that the duck did not crash

yves

[PVresistif]

Fessenheim has 38 years and Bugey 37! what an incredible difference, except that it's close to the border ...
We will close a dozen in the 1 0ans? are you sure ?
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/societe/nuc ... 38145.html