The French and energy: that's two ... at least ...

[sen-no-sen]

So, if I'm reading correctly, we have a slight drop in gross energy consumption.
To correlate I think of the decline in growth of the country.

... Indeed, less growth, therefore less energy consumption, less waste etc ... the ecological solution is simple in short!

[sherkanner]

So, if I'm reading correctly, we have a slight drop in gross energy consumption.
To correlate I think of the decline in growth of the country.

... Indeed, less growth, therefore less energy consumption, less waste etc ... the ecological solution is simple in short!

And if it were the opposite. Less consumption leads to less growth?

[sen-no-sen]

So, if I'm reading correctly, we have a slight drop in gross energy consumption.
To correlate I think of the decline in growth of the country.

... Indeed, less growth, therefore less energy consumption, less waste etc ... the ecological solution is simple in short!

And if it were the opposite. Less consumption leads to less growth?

Absolutely!
This mathematical rule obviously works in both directions!

[moinsdewatt]

Hear, hear,
you who certainly have an EDF invoice

Henri Proglio's salary drops to 1,3 million euros for 2012

April 08, 2013, Usine Nouvelle

The remuneration of EDF CEO Henri Proglio for 2012 fell by around 300 euros in application of the salary ceiling for leaders of public groups, Reuters learned on Monday April 8 in the EDF reference document.

According to this document, Henri Proglio's compensation for 2012 reached 1,3 million euros compared to 1,6 million paid in 2011.

The cap of 450 euros on the annual remuneration of managers of public enterprises, following a decree at the end of July 000, is only applied for the last three months of the year.


This limitation results from President François Hollande's plan to limit from 1 to 20 the maximum pay gap within a public company.

http://www.usinenouvelle.com/article/le ... 12.N194727

[chatelot16]

average french people don't know their water or electricity bills ??? I did not think I was as average ... it's been over 15 years since I no longer have this kind of bill ... no meter on the water falling from the sky in the tanks ... a little sadder for the number of generator that I used, but it serves as an experience for the engine of the future

[moinsdewatt]

Energy cost on average 3.200 euros per household in 2012

Capital July 30, 2013

French households spent on average 3.200 euros in 2012 on light up, heat up and get around by car, or 200 euros more than the previous year, according to the energy balance of France published Tuesday.

"In 2012, current household energy expenditure increased by 6% compared to 2011, twice as much as the previous year. They thus represented a bill of 3.200 euros on average per household", indicates this report. of the Ministry of Energy.

"This increase is mainly due to energy expenditure in housing, which jumped 11%," adds the text.

The ministry explains this figure by cooler temperatures than in 2011 and by the rise in energy prices.

This trend should continue over the next few years. The government notably announced a 5% increase in regulated electricity prices on July 1, 2013, then a similar increase in 2014, to offset the growing costs of EDF.

The fuel bill saw a slight increase in 2012 (+ 1,5%) compared to the previous year (+ 11,4%). However, it exceeds 1.500 euros on average per household, notes the text.

Faced with the surge in oil at the start of the year, the government had implemented a temporary drop in fuel prices at the end of 2012. A time envisaged, several lasting measures, such as the creation of a "fuel check" for the lowest revenues, were abandoned after the decline in prices.

In total, the French spent 91 billion euros current on their energy purchases, more than 8% of their total expenses, notes the report.

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France's energy independence declined in 2012. The energy bill reached a record, at around 69 billion euros, compared to around 61 billion in 2011.

Oil represents a significant part of this amount, with nearly 55 billion euros of imports, far ahead of gas (13,5 billion euros).

Electricity is the only energy exported by France, but these sales fell sharply in 2012, especially to Germany, which imported 38% less than in 2011.

"Germany, having in 2012 both abundant and attractively priced electricity (photovoltaic, wind and coal) was able to export it to its neighbors, including France", adds the report.

Renewable energies remain less developed in France than in Germany, but their weight in the energy mix is ​​increasing, especially in the production of heat.

They now represent almost 10% of final energy consumption, far behind non-renewable electricity (24,4%) or gas (20,8%). The most consumed energy in France remains petroleum, which alone accounts for almost 42% of the total.

http://www.capital.fr/a-la-une/actualit ... 012-862175

[Did67]

Electricity is the only energy exported by France, but these sales fell sharply in 2012, especially to Germany, which imported 38% less than in 2011.

"Germany, having in 2012 both abundant and attractively priced electricity (photovoltaic, wind and coal) was able to export it to its neighbors, including France", adds the report.

Renewable energies remain less developed in France than in Germany, but their weight in the energy mix is ​​increasing, especially in the production of heat.

Eh yes ! Small passage that is worth its weight in peanuts.

We import very expensive electricity at peak times.

We export nuclear electricity when it is not expensive.

We are still clear on the French export / import balance in terms of TWh (which is also deteriorating elsewhere).

And some, here, sneered when Germany decided to leave nuclear power ... explaining that it was doing so thanks to French nuclear power.

In short, between the lines of "Capital" (are these green leftists?), The French nuclear model takes a hit:


a 5% increase in regulated electricity prices on July 1, 2013, then a similar increase in 2014, to offset the growing costs of EDF.

"In 2012, Germany, having both abundant and attractively priced electricity (photovoltaic, wind power and coal) was able to export it to its neighbors, including France",

Wow, wow, they are fierce, those !!! I thought we were the best and the cheapest ??? [humor]

Ah but by the way, what do we do ???

a) "France": not much; more means; we are probably going to cut tax credits again ... Increase VAT ... Introduce a small carbon tax (not out of conviction, but because there is not much to tax!),

b) individuals: very little progress is made on the issue of housing insulation for lack of incentives and funding ...

To read an interesting article in the Nouvel Observateur this week: for collective housing, it is now planned to call on private financers (investors), who carry out the work, collect the "heating bill" from tenants (stabilized) and pay back on energy savings!

The electric car has broken down ...

And we are waiting for the new round of fiscal review for 2014, with undoubtedly a new blow of plan on tax credits [think about the reports of the Court of Account released recently; it is often a “scout” for unpopular decisions to come - the reaction of the media and the public is “probed”; remember he just asked about renewable electricity! And wait !!!]

[gildas]

Energy cost on average 3.200 euros per household in 2012

It's even more ...
Energy is used everywhere: to make bread, building materials, furniture, consumables, hygiene products, operation for the internet, telephony, agriculture, food, etc.

[Did67]

... it's been over 15 years that I no longer have this kind of invoice ... a little sadder for the number of generator that I used

It had escaped me at the time!

You still have an "energy" bill (and even "inflated" by your groups compared to the oil bill!). You will agree that your electric bill, for your consumption, is about 2,5 times heavier ??? [in winter, I imagine that you heat with the fatal heat, so there, you balance better]

1 liter of petrol: 1,50 euros / 10 kWh

electrical efficiency 40% (go, by hypothesis; on a small group rather 35%): so 4 kWh elec for 1,50 in summer mode or 37 cents

in winter, the kWh heating "pellets" (for example!), you would have cost about 6 cents.

So the 6 kWh of fatal energy recovered is worth say 36 cents.

So your 4 kWh electric more than 1,50 - 0,4 = 1,10 euros or 27 cents per kWh.

At this price, the PV is competitive without subsidy. And biomethane !!!

Afterwards, we could "fine-tune" by taking into account the investments, but we get out of the "energy" bill, which is the subject here ...


[PS: I know your plans ... I just warn anyone who passes by and thinks they have found "THE" solution !!!]

[moinsdewatt]

It is only with Germany that the export-import balance is in deficit.

for the other neighboring countries, France has a net exporting balance sheet.



http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lect ... portations

For Germany it is because they are big electric producers thanks to coal and lignite. And a little for daytime solar.