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by Christophe » 21/11/08, 10:59

Well telling the truth is defending the oil companies in this case!

I even wrote a short story at the time: https://www.econologie.com/petrole-non-a ... -3690.html

Well taxis are taxed like everyone else, I don't see pkoi they should be overtaxed, par against they should use smaller cars!

We are happy that they do not yet have tax exemption like the transporters !! (to check!!)

But have you seen the lobby represented by taxis? We can not impose what we want ... And frankly taxi it should not be an easy job ... in terms of what you have in your pocket at the end of the month given the number of hours spent in your taxi!

C moa, if you are inspired: https://www.econologie.com/forums/concours-i ... t6564.html
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by C moa » 21/11/08, 11:24

Christophe wrote:Well taxis are taxed like everyone else, I don't see pkoi they should be overtaxed, par against they should use smaller cars!
This is precisely where the bottom turns out. Their diesel, they buy it HT !!!

http://www.20minutes.fr/article/192959/France-Compensation-de-la-hausse-des-carburants-a-qui-le-tour.php

I'll think about it : Lol: but that will not be for immediately.
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by Christophe » 21/11/08, 11:27

Ah well I did not know that they were also zero-rated ... remarks if the other professionals are, pkoi not them?

However, in your link:

After the success of fishermen, farmers, taxis and truckers also await action. 20minutes.fr takes stock of their claims.


It's about claims, it's effective now because the article is more than a year old ...
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by bamboo » 21/11/08, 13:52

Gregconstruct wrote:At the rate where it goes down, we will eventually find values ​​from 3 or 4 years ago!

Not so sure...
I may be wrong, but I think that here we live for oil the same thing as for the stock market: people have speculated so much downwards (after the very big rise) that they will tomorrow be forced to buy (to compensate for their short positions).

After all, the demand for energy is still there.

But only the future can tell us!
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by Former Oceano » 21/11/08, 20:05

Well let's hope that this will also apply to them:

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Fiscalité verte - Une "éco-pastille" pour les véhicules les plus polluants

En complément du malus à l'acquisition, un malus annuel ("éco-pastille") égal à 160 euros pour les véhicules émettant plus de 250 grammes de CO² par kilomètre serait prévu.

Source : Lettre service-public.fr no 418 du 20 novembre 2008


More info on the public service website fr:

http://www.service-public.fr/actualites ... or=EPR-140


The interesting thing is that it is the insurances that will take these 160 € and pay them back to the state, so no particular procedure and cumbersome administrative work. By the way these companies will work with this money ...
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by C moa » 07/12/08, 11:45

The barrel around 40 USD is worrying for me. I leave you with these sound elements which seem to me to explain the market very well taking into account (finally : Evil: ) as a whole the problem (exchange price, taxes, production cost ...).

http://www.rtl.fr/fiche/2701808/le-baril-a-40-dollars-bonne-nouvelle-ou-gros-problemes-en-perspective.html

Just one point. When he compares the producing countries to drug addicts, I would just recall that a certain number of them are poor countries (Venezuela, Angola ...) or developing countries (Algeria, Russia ...) and that 'they matter a lot.
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by Remundo » 07/12/08, 12:09

Thank you C Moa,

Do not worry, it will increase in a year or 2. In the meantime, fill up and some reservations : Idea:

For OPEC countries, they are colossi with feet of clay. The resource that makes them powerful is at the end of their life ...

But, with all our petroEuros or petroDollars, they still have the idea of ​​taking very large shares in Western multinationals ... We are selling them all our current and future technologies through our pump attendants :?
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by bham » 07/12/08, 12:32

C moa wrote:The barrel around 40 USD is worrying for me. I leave you with these sound elements which seem to me to explain the market very well taking into account (finally : Evil: ) as a whole the problem (exchange price, taxes, production cost ...).

http://www.rtl.fr/fiche/2701808/le-baril-a-40-dollars-bonne-nouvelle-ou-gros-problemes-en-perspective.html


I submit these two lines of thought to your sagacity:
- "the equilibrium price per barrel must be between $ 70 and $ 100 to ensure the renewal of production capacities"

- the recession leads to lower fuel consumption, despite the drop in the price of a barrel.
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by dirk pitt » 07/12/08, 12:51

[quote = "bham"] - "the equilibrium price per barrel must be between $ 70 and $ 100 to ensure the renewal of production capacities"

what do you call renewal of production capacities?
the creation of new wells?
the exploitation of unprofitable deposits below this value?

all this only serves (at the peak of demand) to compensate for the slow but inexorable drop in production from existing deposits. There is nothing to renew in all this.
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by bham » 07/12/08, 15:41

Dirk pitt I have only repeated the words of the economist Philippe Chalmain there: http://www.rtl.fr/fiche/2701808/le-bari ... ctive.html at 2.
What I would like to know and what worries me is to know up to what price are we able to go before saying: stop we stop the exploration and the exploitation of oil / gas because it no longer corresponds at an acceptable price for the economy (more obvious speech that "we have done enough environmental damage"); by the time we get there, a lot of environmental damage will have been committed in the name of a logic of "picking" which brings in and ease (increasingly relative) and profits (which I would also like to increase + relative).
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