«Renewable» VS «dirty energies»: what works (SYNTHESIS)

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«Renewable» VS «dirty energies»: what works (SYNTHESIS)




by Obamot » 29/07/11, 15:28

Renewable Energy General Meeting

Summary of EVERYTHING THAT WORKS in the field.

Rather than scattered around the world forum, let's put here a summary, paths leading to the exit of "Dirty energies».

Summary of solutions to get out of "Dirty energies":

Either everything related to renewable energies
Please only list here what works:

the links on the threads / sites / posts which give leads to get out.
new products and new discoveries in renewable energies.
storage methods new or existing, thermal balloons, etc.
the different possibilities of renewable en allowing to get out.
performances / yields substitution RES.
the potential that you see in the new solutions.
investments, costs and depreciation, for these alternative sources.
new distribution schemes "EnR compatible".
ways to resolve the security of energy supply by renewable energies.
ways to compare different renewable energies between them (and not with dirty energies).
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And also list:
- energy efficiency measures, which already offer a first step in saving energy.
- the ways in which civil society can act within the legislative framework.
- what civil society must avoid to get into a gear.
- the solutions "maisonTo get out (summary note).
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Also say, what you are committed to doing individually, how you see the optimization of what exists.

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This thread should not be used as an alibi for the promotion of "dirty energy / s».
- using false arguments, claiming a pseudo "realism».
- by justifying them by a comparison according to their cost, since this is biased by the fact that they are not sold at their "fair price", since they are nearing exhaustion, and above all because not take into account the time it took to build the "stocks».
- by claiming storage problems (which are solved in different ways, since it is precisely the role of this thread to list them).
- by trying to present them from any other favorable angle.
- by repeating the same messages over and over.
Because in the end, they are not ecological.

There is also no question of discussing the merits of these "exclusions" of themes in the context of this discussion: simply because they would be HS.
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World energy supply: in% by energy source




by Obamot » 29/07/11, 15:45

In introduction:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54h6uG-8Od0

To give an idea, but it's not the debate: States general of the current situation:

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Source: wikipedia

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Posted by Christophe in another thread.
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Create favorable political conditions




by Obamot » 29/07/11, 16:06

I begin: the first path that works, is the political path!

A city of 400 inhabitants, supplied with 000% renewable energy, it is possible:

http://www.tsr.ch/video/info/journal-12h45/#id=3296911;nav=info/journal-19h30/

To do this, the Canton of Geneva has enshrined in the Constitution the exclusion of certain form (s) of "dirty energy / s".

A valley in the Canton of St. Gallen, which has set itself the goal of being energy self-sufficient, it works:

A valley in Toggenburg, which relies on its own local energy resources to do without nuclear power!

http://www.tsr.ch/video/info/journal-19h30/#id=3163855

In both cases, we see that the objectives can be achieved, if the political will is there.

It is therefore necessary to be active at the local level, with our administrations, during the voting campaigns, to require that the candidates engage in the programs which make it possible to leave it.

Because in practice: it already works!

It is therefore also necessary to stop the projects intended to make us consume "dirty energies", by increased vigilance:
- the legislative.
- the executive.
- by choosing candidates for popular elections who commit to taking measures against “dirty energies” and promoting renewable energies. At all government levels (from the leadership of the countries, not to mention the regions, the cantons and your communes).
Although I am not a “green”, today I believe that citizens must take back ownership of the energy debate, it is a question of “civic responsibility”.

Because in our time, we are informed, so we know all the consequences of staying in the "dirty energy»!

Which in any case, we will not be able to do much longer. You might as well start as soon as possible ...
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by Flytox » 29/07/11, 23:50

Great idea this post, Bravo and Thank you Obamot, and this is a big project in perspective ... !!! : Shock: 8) 8) : Idea: :P
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Formic acid / hydrogen: to store electricity




by Obamot » 30/07/11, 01:22

Thank you ! But in the end maybe not as big a project as that ...

Just a summary, in the "Subject» : Arrowu: of your "post" (=> keywords)

And link to another thread with just : Arrowd: "a line"description, and voila!
Let everyone put it "sa»Specialty, and / or subjects he has already covered.

Possibly according to a loose model, as follows:

EPFL wrote:Storage of electricity in stabilized hydrogen, in the form of formic acid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYUJqu0bSIA&feature=related

◊ 2 kW operational motor
◊ makes it possible to restore more than 60% of the starting electrical energy.


Afterwards, everyone can develop a little more, if a subject has not yet been covered ... But the best will be to make a short description, and create a suitable thread, with a link from here.

So that could constitute an aid - on a case-by-case basis - in order to know which answer it would be better to bring, according to the type of energy demand ...

(... and too bad we can't organize a section in a forum, with a sort on the posts! It would have been practical, but at least this thread would allow us to stay "informed", as long as we all participate.)
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