Fuel prices at the pump and oil, where is the bug?

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by nightrow » 01/04/08, 19:35

It must be seen that it is because petrol is not very expensive at the base that the state can afford such taxes.
When the fuel is truly overpriced (as well as the alternatives), this is where it will hurt the wallet, as much for the state (decrease in revenue linked to TIPP) as for individuals (petrol excluding prices with or without taxes).
You have to see that the TIPP is 7% of the state budget, and I dare not think of the deficit if the cash inflows linked to the TIPP decrease, associated with an increase in interest rates (because index confidence that plunges) ...

I think that the disaster scenarios are as diverse as they are varied and await us at a near turning point ... :|
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by nightrow » 01/04/08, 21:41

Strange, me who follows a natural optimist, I realize that almost all my messages on this forum are pessimistic ... It doesn't look like me.

It may also be necessary to believe that an in-depth analysis of our probable future does not appear very rosy, rather gray ...
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by spiderosso » 01/04/08, 22:16

humhum, what will happen?
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by Christophe » 02/04/08, 09:32

nightrow wrote:Strange, me who follows a natural optimist, I realize that almost all my messages on this forum are pessimistic ... It doesn't look like me.


Well in the field of energy and warming it is quite normal as a "behavior" ... optimists are the naive, the crazy, the scientists who take their dreams for reality (fusion) or the politicians ( or any other person trying to sell you something ...) ... ah there are also the gas and oil companies who know that they do not give a damn about their pockets in the future ... since that is what matters to them ...

The problem is when this pessimism takes too great a part :( and prevents doing things (style "it's useless anyway it's fucked up") ...

nightrow wrote:It may also be necessary to believe that an in-depth analysis of our probable future does not appear very rosy, rather gray ...


That's quite right...
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by Arthur_64 » 02/04/08, 21:28

I sent it to a large part of my contacts (around fifty, I'm not mister enlarge-your-penis):

Not much reaction. I have to change friends ... I hope they have transmitted it at least!
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by Christophe » 23/04/08, 13:35

The bug was found: the barrel was not worth $ 60 in 2000 but $ 28,5 see: http://www.industrie.gouv.fr/energie/pe ... _brent.htm

It's stupid because it breaks everything and the reasoning was judicious ...

I will draw the curve with the parity of the dollars: http://www.industrie.gouv.fr/energie/pe ... ollar2.htm
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by dirk pitt » 23/04/08, 13:51

do not break your head, I did and published it in the post on expensive diesel.
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by dirk pitt » 23/04/08, 13:55

want to go i give it to you here too

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Brent increase since 2002 in euros (in blue): 3.22% per month
increase in GO during the same period (in yellow): 1.05% per month
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by Christophe » 23/04/08, 14:02

Arf I had not seen :)
Do you have the Excel file? It will save me from having to take it all over :) Where did you get the sources of the figures?
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