Crude oil prices, 2009 analyzes and 2010 evolutions?

Oil, gas, coal, nuclear (PWR, EPR, hot fusion, ITER), gas and coal thermal power plants, cogeneration, tri-generation. Peakoil, depletion, economics, technologies and geopolitical strategies. Prices, pollution, economic and social costs ...
Christophe
Moderator
Moderator
posts: 79360
Registration: 10/02/03, 14:06
Location: Greenhouse planet
x 11060

Crude oil prices, 2009 analyzes and 2010 evolutions?




by Christophe » 23/10/09, 11:26

Crude oil prices: a meeting with Guy Maisonnier, economist at IFP

October 2009

The price of oil seems to have found a balance around $ 70 / b. Is this relative stability lasting?

Is the price of crude oil, which is around $ 70 / bbl, in the stabilization phase?


GM: the current stability is quite relative. The price of crude oil in fact experienced strong variations ranging between $ 60 and $ 70 / b from June to mid-July, then between $ 66 and $ 74 / b in August and September. The downward corrections occurred during periods of doubt about the recovery. In early July, uncertainty about the companies' quarterly results encouraged profit-taking on the stock and oil markets. The same phenomenon occurred in early September when a feeling of concern prevailed over future growth in the private sector. The issue is linked both to demand given the rise in unemployment and to future investment due to the low number of credits granted. The upward revisions to growth announced at the start of September by the IMF and the OECD have nevertheless stabilized prices, but the situation remains fragile.

Apart from the link with the stock markets, what is the impact of the Euro?

GM: there is indeed a link with the stock markets, economic indicators influencing the two markets in the same direction. The link with the Euro can be analyzed from two points of view, financial and physical. From a financial point of view, investors turn to the dollar in uncertain times and conversely opt for other currencies and commodities in more optimistic times. It would be an explanation of the parallel (but not systematic) movements observed. From a physical point of view, the weak dollar dampens the rise in oil and has less impact on consumer behavior. It is therefore a factor of potential tensions which can self-fuel the rise in oil.

Should we expect high volatility in the coming months?

GM: this is likely given the fragile economic context. The financial markets react fairly strongly to economic indicators published regularly such as confidence indexes, the unemployment rate or to stay in the oil sector, stocks of crude oil and petroleum products in the United States. The market has been in the consolidation phase since the end of September, pending quarterly results to define a trend, while the indicators are still uncertain.
In strong trend, given the IMF vision of a timid global recovery in 2010 (readjusted to 3,1% in early October against 2,5% in July) and more sustained in 2011 largely driven by emerging countries, we can generally expect an upward trend with periods of consolidation.

Is it possible to give orders of magnitude?

GM: if we retain the IMF scenario, the Brent price should continue to rise and stay above $ 65 / b. However, a price surge in the next few months is unlikely since the supply / demand balance is not very tight due, on the one hand, to the expected weakness in growth and, on the other, OPEC production margins. The upward trend will be driven mainly by forward prices which currently anticipate $ 80 to $ 85 / b in the next 5 years. The equilibrium will therefore remain unstable subject to short-term downward pressures (surplus production) and upward pressures in the medium and long term. Strong corrections thus remain possible, but the general trend should gradually push prices up.
80 $ / b for 2010, against around 60 $ / b in 2009, constitutes a possible average level close to the hypothesis adopted by the IMF (76,5 $ / b). This scenario does not take into account the numerous hazards (geopolitics, climate, pandemic, etc.) likely to significantly modify this trajectory. It is essential to recall the context in which forecasts are made, particularly in this period of great uncertainty.

Oil prices in 2009 (Brent spot and futures market)

Image

1: - / + Search for an equilibrium price in January (Uncertainties: Demand? OPEC management?);
2: + OPEC overruns on January confirmed (+ 1,3 Mb / d);
3: + Stock market optimism from March 9; OPEC meeting of March 15 aimed at respecting quotas;
4: - Bearish correction; Ultimatum on March 29 on the American automobile industry;
5: + The "G20" of April 2 gives new hope;
6: - / + New fall in demand forecast for 2009 but drop in OPEC overruns (+ 0,7 Mb / d);
7: + Anticipation of recovery (stock market effect) and Euro effect;
8: - / + Consolidation of stock markets; Tensions in Nigeria;
9: - Concern about the results of the companies, stock market effect;
10: + Resumption of the stock markets after the publication of satisfactory results;
11: - Uncertainty about future private growth; Awaiting quarterly results;
12: + Vision of a gradual economic recovery.


Source: http://www.ifp.fr/espace-decouverte-mie ... te-a-l-ifp
0 x
dirk pitt
Econologue expert
Econologue expert
posts: 2081
Registration: 10/01/08, 14:16
Location: isere
x 68




by dirk pitt » 23/10/09, 12:11

of course as usual, no word on the production depletion for years to come. : Evil:
among all the factors influencing the price, it is funny (well almost) to see that one of the only "physical" factors (because geological) is never price taken into account unlike all the other volatile factors such as the recovery, the morale of the bosses, or others.
it makes me laugh all these smoky predictions on prices in 2010 or 2011 or worse that will be swept away when the supply flow has difficulty keeping up with the offer.

I recently became aware of why the denial of the depletion of sector officials:
we can communicate on a problem when we have a solution to offer. when there is no solution, it is better to omit talking about the problem especially when the effects are not yet undergoing
everything leads me to believe that even when the problem is there, the denial will continue.
0 x
Image
Click my signature
sensei64
I learn econologic
I learn econologic
posts: 20
Registration: 14/11/09, 13:00

oil price




by sensei64 » 06/01/10, 20:00

the price will depend in my opinion on:

of the Asian market (steel had its period with China) ... greater purchasing power because of growth

from the weather (for the next 2 to 3 months) winter cold petroleum ++ it has taken 4 centimes recently, cold?

of the world geopolitical situation; imagine the Middle East on fire
and the price of this black gold ... not good

* hence the need to diversify wind, photovoltaic hydraulics (Spain) we have also been dumped by northern and southern countries (Portugal which is embarking on the energy of lamer and its successful).

a great user at bordeaux photovoltaique, but at what price for the lambda you, them me? which will launch with the means in 2010.

canon price will be +++ to go in this direction there.

for French and export

alone; positive point with a report € / $ that will "perhaps" secrete unpleasant surprises
0 x

 


  • Similar topics
    Replies
    views
    Last message

Go back to "Fossil energies: oil, gas, coal and nuclear electricity (fission and fusion)"

Who is online ?

Users browsing this forum : gegyx, sicetaitsimple and 281 guests