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by Janic » 03/05/11, 08:32

christophe hello
And then the most powerful lobby does not necessarily control everything ... with the best will in the world ... it's like you and me in everyday life: they have certain priorities ... and no other...
Disagree, you like me are limited by our individuality, while the lobbies are octopuses with tentacles (or metastases : Evil: ) in all sectors. At most, some interests oppose others, and it is the most successful that prevail.
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by Christophe » 03/05/11, 09:00

What I wanted to say is that, for example, for your hobbies, you can't do everything: you have to make choices (time, budget, desires ...).
So do all the other choices we have to make.

The lobbies are the same: they have limited priorities and means and if their power is important, it is not absolute either! Still happy!

So they can't control everything.

For example, if they had absolute power what forum and so many other sites simply do not exist! It would be called an economic dictatorship ... and I want to add "by divine right" : Evil:
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by pb2488 » 03/05/11, 16:19

Christophe wrote:Studies on warming, climate, peakoil, depletion do not bother them at all, quite the contrary: it is an indirect way for them to increase the prices of fossil fuels ... so their profits ...
I do not believe that the share of price variability attributable to the IPCC (ie a little Kyoto protocol, a little carbon tax here and there, etc.) benefits lobbies.
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by Christophe » 03/05/11, 16:26

Less than a Gaddafi it is on ... : Cheesy:

But do you agree that it affects the price of oil?
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by pb2488 » 03/05/11, 16:29

Maybe the IPCC influences the price of oil (whatever?), Well, it's not for the benefit of lobbies, that's for sure !!!
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by Christophe » 03/05/11, 16:38

Uh if it affects the upward price, it benefits oil companies ... right?

Or then it is that I understood nothing about economics (it was didi who said hihiihhi)
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by dedeleco » 03/05/11, 16:42

Well, the IPCC makes the fortune of the oil companies with the prices which go up by speculation of speculators who anticipate the rise of the prices due to the imaginary scarcity of oil announced by the analyzes of peak oil and the effects of the global warming associated with oil, announced by the IPCC !!
The IPCC allows the realization that oil will be limited and that its price will explode and speculators jump in advance on this windfall to make a fortune at full speed !!

example of speculators pushing for maximum profits the foolish investor:
http://www.fool.com/investing/dividends ... years.aspx
http://www.fool.com/fool/free-report/18 ... eml0000990

Pb2488's links are like him, they don't lead to nothing !!
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by pb2488 » 03/05/11, 16:57

Carbon tax, kyoto protocol, etc., resulting from the IPCC conclusions, tend to lower demand .... I don't see how this benefits oil tankers (oil tankers = oil companies? Producing countries? Both?)
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by dedeleco » 03/05/11, 17:12

The foolish investors having become aware of the scarcity of oil and its use by CO2, do not reason thus, given the explosive prices which make their fortune and that of the oil tankers, until the next financial crash where some will burn their wings !! !

Same for rare metals and materials of which they become aware of their rarefaction by IPCC type studies of the future and their prices explode much more: gold copper; money etc ...
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