Nuclear Japan: message from a French expatriate !! June 15

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by dedeleco » 04/07/11, 15:33

This is already highly thought out and functional to:

www.dlsc.ca
https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... mrk29Z.pdf
discussed:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post203921.html#203921
and therefore the operation can be followed live on:
http://www.dlsc.ca/how.htm
by clicking on the bottom left on:
System's Current Conditions !!!

https://www.econologie.com/forums/post206773.html#206773

All heating, with fuel, CO2, with nuclear, and air conditioning can be replaced by this method of storing solar heat from summer to winter !!

Considering the enormous importance of the possibilities on CO2 and nuclear, totally neglected in France, even by environmentalists, it becomes a hobby to repeat it.

To copy, perfect and make in France !!

We can do it by tinkering at home if we put the will into it !!

Only holes like wells at 10m deep, pipes underground and in the sun, a circulator, radiators and fans.

No more fuel, heat pump and nuclear to consume, than the summer sun !!
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by bamboo » 04/07/11, 15:38

dedeleco wrote:We can do it by tinkering at home if we put the will into it !!
Dede, since the time you repeat it, I think we have understood ... : Cheesy:
Now you should do it at home and market it.
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by netshaman » 04/07/11, 16:08

I touched a word to the association solar apper, but, I do not know why, they have not stopped finding arguments against ...
I don't understand anymore ...
It is to wonder if the IQ of the French has been lowered, I do not know me!
The star ac and other stupid shows surely have something to do with it!
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by Addrelyn » 05/07/11, 10:09

http://www.lesechos.fr/entreprises-secteurs/energie-environnement/actu/0201484243129-au-coeur-de-la-centrale-de-fukushima-daiichi-avec-les-sauveteurs-francais-d-areva-189186.php

Here is another testimony, history of respecting the diversity of opinions ...

“If we had the feeling of taking reckless risks, we wouldn't be there. I have three children, ”says Sylvain Mouezan. "Of course there is a natural apprehension. But we know this environment, ”adds Jean-Marie Raymond, the order control manager. His comrades nod.
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by stipe » 05/07/11, 10:23

yes, and above all the drop in the article is terrible: fortunately the Japanese are there to provide thrills, because with French nuclear power, we get bored:

“And then we will never know that in France. It's the experience of a lifetime, ”breathes Sylvain Mouezan, before settling in the Tepco shuttle, which penetrates 20 meters further into the no man's land surrounding the power plant. "


distressing : Shock:
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by FPLM » 05/07/11, 10:29

In the kingdom of the deaf, the blind are kings.
Just because a handful of unconscious people support a dying technology does not make it viable. The nuke is dead and his fervent supporters will be forgotten with him.
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by stipe » 05/07/11, 10:38

FPLM wrote:Just because a handful of unconscious people support a dying technology does not make it viable. The nuke is dead and his fervent supporters will be forgotten with him.


Is that so....?
And France (and 1/3 - 1/2 of Europe with), the United States, Russia, China, India, will they stop nuclear power?

Given the current popular mobilization, I do not see what will stop the construction of a park equivalent to the current park and therefore the extension of the risk for another 50 years ... :?
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by nlc » 05/07/11, 11:03

Addrelyn wrote:Here is another testimony, history of respecting the diversity of opinions ...


Diversity of opinions? This is outright propaganda!

"It will never happen in France", here is the conclusion of the article which proves the desired goal, to reassure the French: in France there is no risk, and even so, it is not so dangerous that, at 2m from the source of radiation, we receive 4x less than if it touched it. Yeah so 20Km it's peanuts, cool !! : Mrgreen:

And workers, if they are well protected from contamination, what about the people who lived nearby and the surrounding land when one of the buildings exploded, and probably not because of hydrogen? All this radioactive dust is somewhere.
And all these thousands, not to say millions of liters of contaminated fleet that have left for the ocean ...

Not being aware of what is at stake, but I find it repulsive excuse me! We are not in a film, there is a people behind.
At least answer this question honestly: would you be ready to go on site to decontaminate the site? Maybe you would realize the reality of the situation, we are not in the virtual, we are in the RL as we say (real life).

Even if nuclear power can have something fascinating, extracting so much energy from so little matter by playing with atoms, the fact remains that we do not have mastery! We believe to master but this is not the case, suffice to list all the accidents ...

If all the billions invested in nuclear energy had been invested elsewhere, we would not be there. When I hear the bitch of the Minister of Ecology questioned on solar say that it is not so simple and that we did not take into account the dismantling of solar farms, it makes me want to vomit. As if we had taken into consideration the fact that we were going to have to dismantle the nuclear power plants when we put them in place. If we extend their lifespan (go 10 more years for fessenheim), it's good because we don't know what to do with it once it reaches the end of its life, and the operators don't really want to dismantle because of the price it's going to cost. To believe that it is better to extend until the disaster, then we cross a perimeter of the map all around and we drown the whole site under the concrete, hop, we talk more.

And the question of waste? In short...
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by Christophe » 05/07/11, 11:11

Addrelyn wrote:
His comrades nod.


This, I have no doubt, EDF holders are well "trained" to respond to the media ... So are a bit judges and part ...

This is not the case with the dissidence of interim and external employees for outages ... who dare to speak frankly ...

https://www.econologie.com/forums/edf-et-la- ... t7513.html

Paid 1100 € per month to enter a steam generator ... how much does an engineer in a nuclear power plant at EDF affect at 40? Everything can be bought ... even nuclear security and therefore state ...
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by bernardd » 05/07/11, 11:21

“If we had the feeling of taking reckless risks, we wouldn't be there. I have three children, ”says Sylvain Mouezan.


In front of such a spectacle of "a lifetime", I wonder why he does not also take his children to visit the reactors of Fukushima? It seems that the schools have room around, and since it is not dangerous, as much as he takes advantage of it.

Or would it have 2 languages?
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