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by jonule » 03/07/08, 12:10

you are not realistic, you are not alternative, you are not accessible.

I prefer to be interested in the development of alternative NRJs, realistic and accessible there is a lot to do that is not done.

I make an association without patent:
http://www.nrjrealiste.fr

be careful we are in already developed country ;-)
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by agriculturegaia » 03/07/08, 12:13

agriculturegaia wrote:
Christophe wrote:When we copy / paste a text, the least of politeness is to quote the source ...


Source: http://www.agriculturegaia.com

If you want to check the information:
-all the nuclear books.
-all the books that deal with Hiroshima, Nagasaki.

It will take you roughly a few thousand hours of research work and information cross-checking ...

Good luck!


Oh darn! © 2008 - 2008 Agriculture Gaïa.
Oh dear! The author of the comments on this site can put me a lawsuit to copy / paste his site on this forum... Oh I'm afraid ... Oh damn, I'm the author! So I risk nothing unless I stick a lawsuit myself! ih! ih! ih!

The birds are always cooking with your moms!
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by agriculturegaia » 03/07/08, 12:16

jonule wrote:you are not realistic, you are not alternative, you are not accessible.

I prefer to be interested in the development of alternative NRJs, realistic and accessible there is a lot to do that is not done.

I make an association without patent:
http://www.nrjrealiste.fr

be careful we are in already developed country ;-)


Uh my thing it is rather a reflection turned towards the sun and the wind .. but for that it is necessary to study nuclear to understand how to develop more efficient ecological systems .. Like studying chemical agriculture to understand why it is necessary another agriculture, like Gaïa agriculture ..
If you don't see the connection, go see the birds that cook, it will give you ideas ;-)


And if not, is your mom fine?
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by jonule » 03/07/08, 13:18

well it will be better without chemistry and without nuclear we agree, no need for birds for that?

well done for your project if not, but can you tell us more about setting up in France please?
projects started?
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by agriculturegaia » 08/01/09, 03:41

yes to follow the Gaïa adventure, you must subscribe to the Gaïa newsletter here: http://www.agriculturegaia.com

about my economically and technically profitable cold fusion theory compared to the much more dangerous hot fusion business I invite you to visit this: http://www.agriculturegaia.com/index.ph ... a&Itemid=5

there is a bonus on my theory about the Big Bang : Arrow: : Arrowd: : Arrowl: : Arrowu: : Idea:
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by Leo Maximus » 08/01/09, 10:01

agriculturegaia wrote:THE POSSIBLE IATROGENIC CONSEQUENCES OF THE POWER OF THE SUN ON EARTH.

Robert dautray warns: "A danger could concern proliferation: the tritium used and then produced by thermonuclear facilities is, using minute masses, one of the main ingredients of nuclear weapons in high-tech arsenals:"

* The proponents of the civil application merger put forward the following arguments:
- An almost inexhaustible fuel.
- Easy to manage radioactive waste.
-High operational reliability.
-A low impact on the proliferation of nuclear weapons.

We cannot forget the H bomb. With fusion, we cannot exclude contamination by tritium, which decays over a period of 12 years. How can radioactive activation of reactor structural materials be avoided? What materials will withstand several years of irradiation by energy neutrons? How will the tritium regeneration cycle work? The industrial implementation of fusion merits answers. We cannot forget Chernobyl and the enormous health consequences. We cannot forget that the proliferation of fission nuclear power stations contributes to legal and illegal uranium trafficking, to legal and illegal terrorist applications.

Who guarantees us that the proliferation of thermonuclear power plants, hot fusion, will not increase the same risks with a multiple of destruction power compared to fission? We cannot forget the atomic bomb before the advent of nuclear power for civilian use that we know today. We cannot forget Hiroshima and Nagasaki whose latest research (read all the books that deal with this subject, there are not that many, this subject is still taboo and hidden since even on Wikipedia which is a free encyclopedia and supposed to be objective and uncensored, no one, even the specialists, could put the ultimate information which reveals this geopolitical scandal between the protagonist governments of the time! It always wrote there: "The bombs allowed the end of the war while avoiding unnecessary additional victims ") demonstrated that these bombs could be avoided but that it was pretext for a" scientific test ".. (How horrible, it makes you want to vomit ..) of the impact of radiation on the living world, including human beings.

* For those who want another version of "historical truth":
- "Hiroshima 50 years at Editions Autrement"
- "Notes from Hiroshima (Hiroshima Nôto) to Editions Gallimard"
- "I was 6 years old in Hiroshima, edition seeks him at noon"
I advise you the greatest attention on the pages: 117, 118, 134 to 136, 120 to 129, 33, 57, 61, 63, 73, 56, but especially concerning ABCC, pages 99, 103, 109.

The historical truth, it is well known, is made by the victors ... But in the case of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, it is more complex ... It directly involves the Japanese government of the time which sacrificed 2 cities in the name of modernization by making a pact with the Americans for a question of American strategic position in the context of the cold war vis-à-vis the former USSR. We can say that the objective has been achieved since Japan has become a world power and actively participates in all nuclear fusion projects up to Iter and DEMO. The question of the finality and the means to be used .. "We must support population growth and stop the added greenhouse pollution, blah blah .. In addition oil, there is hardly any more .. blah blah .. "These are the arguments advanced by all specialists in favor of nuclear (fission and fusion) by advancing the argument of the" less worst policy ".

The end does not justify the means.

We must therefore beware of the "positive" arguments advanced by politicians, scientists and specialists. It would therefore be presumptuous to say that thermonuclear fusion (playing with temperatures higher than those of the sun) does not involve risks. It is however true that there will be less radiactive waste compared to current nuclear fission. However, there is another alternative which would avoid iatrogenic consequences: Cold fusion. This line of research is currently abandoned for financial reasons, once again the money (muons are too expensive to manufacture) and the ignorance complex of scientists (cold fusion calls into question the foundations of current physics ) who are leading cutting edge research! AMAZING! Hence the interest in bringing together independent researchers who would speed up Iter and thermonuclear fusion by proving on the one hand the technical feasibility of cold fusion by focusing on a theoretical reflection and by using the O / C technique allowing to take into account the very latest results of multidisciplinary research (E8 group, theory of everything, The properties of a quantum object do not exist before being observed by a measuring device, creation of mini black holes thanks to the LHC), and on the other hand to prove the economic advantage of cold fusion by making muons with LHC.

The problem with Iter is that the scientists try to put in self-regulating system several independent mechanisms while wanting to centralize the command and by using the bad tools (Riddle: Why the scientists of Iter study the plasma, base of fusion, with physics current while plasma is under the jurisdiction of non-linear sciences?). As long as there is not a clear, precise and elegant mathematical equation for plasma, civil application fusion will not succeed (the history and history of fusion demonstrate this).
This is why it is necessary to call upon the scientists who disturb: The theorists.
And this does not require money but paper and a pencil.


FISSION AND NUCLEAR FUSION.

Nuclear energy consists in creating from heavy or light nuclei nuclei which approach the average mass. Currently, nuclear fission is used: Fission consists of breaking heavy nuclei like that of uranium. It is the fission products that take up most of the energy. Fusion consists of marrying light nuclei such as deuterium and tritium. Most of the energy is carried away by the neutron, the rest by the helium nucleus resulting from the reaction. Fusion makes it possible to obtain a much greater energy (4 times more than fission) at equal mass. In the fission reaction, the neutrons, electrically neutral which make it possible to break heavy nuclei, easily cross the electromagnetic barrier which defends access to the nucleus. In fusion, the light nuclei are positively charged, this barrier is therefore difficult to cross to enter the field of the strong nuclear force, the latter then prevailing over the repulsion due to the electromagnetic force, which will catch them and lead them to merge. Einstein's equation shows that 90 grams of deuterium, extracted from 4500 liters of seawater, would supply electricity, throughout its life, to an average consumer in an industrialized country.

In hot fusion (Iter), it is the kinetic energy of the nuclei, brought to very high temperatures which allows them to overcome the repulsion and to cross the electromagnetic barrier which is opposed to their bringing together.
Currently the winning combination is: D + T gives He4 (3.5MeV) + n (14.1 MeV)

In the so-called muonic cold fusion, we replace the electron with a muon, a particle with the same electrical charge but whose mass is 207 times greater. The muon is therefore much closer to the nucleus than was the electron, which allows it to shield the positive charge from the nucleus. We can thus associate a muonic atom of deuterium and another of tritium to form a molecule within which the nuclei will be very close together and will be able to merge at ordinary temperature. Once the fusion has taken place, the muon is again available to carry out another fusion, and so on. But a muon has a lifespan of 2,2 millionths of a second and to date only a hundred fusion reactions have been obtained, which is economically insufficient since the muon is produced by a very powerful particle accelerator, which is insufficient in terms of profitability.


THE CURRENT STATE OF NUCLEAR FUSION RESEARCH: Iter.

Currently designated by Iter, meaning in Latin "path". Iter is a scientific program which aims to understand the behavior of matter when it is in the form of plasma much less dense than the atmosphere, brought to a temperature of 100.000.000 degrees (temperature higher than that of the sun ). This program tries to understand how this plasma can be maintained in a lasting way in this state while producing at least a few dozen times the energy that is supplied to it to initiate the nuclear fusion reaction of which it is the seat, more exactly of thermonuclear fusion under magnetic confinement. The final objective is the production of electricity for millennia without the release of greenhouse gases or other products that can alter the environment, without the production of long-lived radioactive waste and without the risk of the reactor runaway.

The model of inspiration is the sun. Within the stars, matter, mainly hydrogen, is not consumed there, it is transmuted there. During nuclear reactions, the nuclei of hydrogen atoms merge, change into heavier elements while releasing large amounts of energy. For comparison, if the reactions were chemical, the sun would not have fuel for a long time. The model of the sun is simple: All it takes is light atoms, an initial heating to bring the hydrogen to ignition temperature and confinement to avoid dissipation under the pressure generated by nuclear reactions. . This is where the problem arises: The sun, thanks to its gravitational force, maintains confinement but on Earth, an equivalent force must be found: A powerful magnetic field which will impose a non-spherical shape on it but a "torus" shape "(a cylinder closed in on itself): The sun is therefore a model of inspiration for fusion but is not a model of study.

The first patent for a fusion reactor was filed in 1946. But it is over the past 30 years that decisive progress has been made. Before Iter, installations like JET and Tore Supra and then INTOR have proven the scientific feasibility of the fusion. The advent of this energy would be for the second half of our century. The meeting between Mikhail Gorbachev and Ronald Reagan in Geneva on November 19, 1985 is considered to be the founding political act of the Iter company. Press release published at the end of this meeting.

Iter has nothing to do with a nuclear reactor, it cannot operate continuously, it cannot collect neutrons for years, it will not regenerate the tritium it burns. Despite the investment, it is necessary to stop Iter's research and return to the star model as inspiration and study model using the latest scientific discoveries 2007/2008. The next step is the construction of DEMO, a real reactor supplying energy to the network to be located. In Japan!


ONE OF THE BRANCHES OF PHYSICS: THE THEORY OF PLASMAS.

Plasma makes up 99% of the universe.
The medium brought to very high temperature, formed of a gas, is called a plasma. It is the fourth state of matter which manifests itself when, by dint of being shocked, jostled and thrown at increasingly greater speeds on each other, the electrons leave their orbits which kept them trapped around the nucleus. of the atom. In a hydrogen plasma, the atom is thus dissociated into a hydrogen ion with a negative charge. In the plasma state, the "gaseous" medium changes profoundly in nature and in properties. The electrons can thus move with great freedom and if the plasma remains globally neutral, the charges of its constituents give it a systemic behavior subject to the theory of chaos. Plasma is governed by the nonlinear sciences. The current physics is linear: It is the mechanics of the fluids which until today tried to include / understand the plasma. Outside in the plasma, the ions and the electrons perform organized movements, without jostling each other, without external intervention, so the plasma is not under the jurisdiction of fluid mechanics. Unlike gas, the transition from microscopic to macroscopic observation is no longer the same.

Plasma must be studied from the perspective of non-linear sciences, taking into account the theory of Everything (with the group E8) and the theory of chaos (with systemic processes). So back to math requiring paper / pencil.

Electrical conductivity and sensitivity to magnetic fields are the 2 properties that lead to controlled fusion. The plasma could be confined by a magnetic field.
At high temperature, the plasma becomes simpler since it is composed only of free ions and electrons. The quantum effects disappear.

All the physical parameters linked to the plasma have disordered behaviors in time and space while preserving overall stationary characteristics. This state no longer depends on the initial conditions and can no longer be represented as a simple superposition of well identified instabilities. Its properties can be deduced from the values ​​of some macroscopic parameters.


THE DIFFICULTIES LINKED TO THE START OF MERGER AND THE LIMITS OF MATERIALS.

The control of fusion by Iter intervening in a medium brought to very high temperature, rests essentially on the thermal insulation of the reactive medium which must be most effective possible. So research on fusion has chosen its side: We can therefore talk about research on thermonuclear fusion using heat to increase kinetic energy in order to achieve this fusion.
For the fusion reaction to be maintained, the plasma must be sufficiently dense and hot while providing it with the energy necessary for this operation for a sufficiently long time.

* This minimum requirement is obtained in 2 ways:
-A very dense plasma and a very short confinement time: This is inertial fusion.
-A rarefied plasma with a long confinement time: This is magnetic fusion.

It is this last solution which is adopted for ignition or ignition which allows the system to maintain itself: The ambition is to obtain 10 times or even 30 times the power expended.
The plasma must be absolutely protected from contact with the wall. This confinement is ensured naturally by the gravitation of the stars, which makes it possible to have no material contact only a contact with the sidereal vacuum, thus avoiding any possible cooling. The solution used by Iter is the magnetic field.

* We can summarize the 3 devices to achieve the merger:
-Sun: Gravitational confinement.
-Tokamak: Magnetic confinement.
- Megajoule laser: Inertial confinement.

The problem is that the behavior of the plasma at this temperature is catastrophic, it throws itself against the walls, thus losing the energy of ignition and being charged with impurities. My opinion is that it would be necessary to study the plasma from the angle of chaos theory in order to be able to better understand it and to adapt the magnetic confinement with more precision in order to conserve the ignition energy allowing the yield from 10 to 30 The other possible way of thinking is to artificially create black holes with LHC in order to make use of the gravitational confinement of stars and spatio-temporal deformation in order to artificially increase the probability of encounter between H by another H.

The other major and fundamental problem is that modern physics describes linear phenomena. The plasma is governed by the continuous, non-linear and multi-scale medium: In fact, the plasma can be affected simultaneously by large deformations and microscopic disturbances; all, whatever their size, can interact with each other, which makes modeling calculations very complex. It seems to me that the only theory which unifies the microscopic and the macroscopic (gravitation, strong and weak links, electromagnetism ...) is the theory of the Whole which is based on the resolution of the group binds E8 and which should perhaps be to use it to solve this major problem of instability of the plasma (this "instability" is relative by the observation and the stakes of the scientists who are no longer objective and who do not see the obvious. O / C technique: The plasma is under the jurisdiction of the law of chaos which involves an apparent disorder but which is governed by systemic processes. The observation time in Iter is very short, therefore not being able to predict the behavior of the plasma and therefore not being able to put an effective containment system .. Here there is flagrant loss of power of scientific reasoning: On the one hand Iter tries machines that go beyond technological prowess to the limit of science fiction compared toexisting and accepted theories, on the other hand Iter enters into contradiction between the observed phenomena not explained and his own scientific beliefs. It would suffice for Iter to integrate the very latest research by accepting that the era of the division between the infinitely small and the infinitely large is over. This implies the loss of the all power of specializations and therefore the death of science current ..


MAGNETISM, THE SOLUTION BUT TO WHAT EXTENT?

The confinement is obtained by subjecting the plasma to the action of magnetic fields oriented in the 3 directions of space. The greater the magnetic thickness, the better the energy confinement. The configuration adopted by Iter is the Tokamak.
However, the configuration of the Stellarator has 2 significant advantages:
The absence of current within the plasma preserves the walls while increasing the longevity in continuous use.
Complexity and costs are the reasons for choosing the Tokamak. This proves once again that Iter is not the finality but a "technical summary" of the state of current scientific knowledge on fusion to continue to obtain grants .. And skate in sauerkraut!

In a Tokamak, the disordered movements of the electrons do not lead to any magnetic field. On the other hand, a macroscopic electric field applied to the plasma makes it possible to reveal a significant magnetic field with, in return, the need to supply 49 megawatts in order to maintain the temperature necessary for the production of 500 megawatts by fusion reaction. Collisions and instabilities are the big difficulty of magnetic confinement. No method currently allows to get rid of these drift instabilities in particular because no current science can explain hot plasmas. Out to build efficient pilots, you absolutely need to know the behavior of hot plasma. The only open avenue is the generalization of the concept of attractor which is the final destination of all developments close to a stable equilibrium.

To the problems of confinement is added the difficulty implying the science of materials since they condition the recovery of the energy of the neutrons of fusion: This problem is not currently solved.

Unlike magnetic confinement, inertial confinement has set itself the objective of highlighting ignition without any other constraint: In the United States and in France, this research falls within the framework of national defense. Many are the supporters of this confinement. To believe that magnetic confinement is only a decoy to secretly develop inertial confinement by inventing a pilot with good efficiency (laser diode) which will concentrate energy on the target. And prepare the monopole of the fusion energy ..


TECHNIQUE O / C (OBSERVATION / CONTEMPLATION): OTHER POSSIBLE WAYS.

The introduction of strange attractors into the theory of turbulence involves objects of non-integer or fractal dimensions. The strange attractor highlights the deepest properties of the behavior of a turbulent system: Its chaotic nature does not result from the superposition of a large number of regular movements but from the mutual disturbance that each exerts on each other and which defines the non-linearity of the system. A small number of exited unstable disturbances is enough to bring the system into the chaotic regime. The physics of turbulences and instabilities still fail to explain the temperature of 6000 ° c on the surface of the sun and the existence of 1.000.000 ° c of the plasma which is 1.000.000 km from the surface: I do not think that this science allows the resolution of the plasma and yet it is the only scientific answer to be able to understand it. Isn't this catastrophic as a scientific approach?

* To understand the plasma based on fusion, you need:
-Paper and pencil.
-Theorists.
- Mathematicians.
-The theory of Everything which describes the link between the microscopic and the macroscopic.
-The resolution of the Lie E8 group.
-The chaos theory.
-A powerful computer which, in numerical modeling and simulations, takes into account geometric elements that are difficult to process.

In this case, it is possible to make a numerical modelization of the behavior of the hot plasma between time t0 and time tfinal. to prove the validity of this digital modelization, it is enough to "rewind" and note or not the state of origin ..; If the state after rewinding is original, this implies that the behavior of the hot plasma will be described by a mathematical equation involving the total understanding of the plasma and therefore the feasibility of fusion for civil application: It is the only scientific solution to achieve the fusion.

Research on fusion is currently a scientific project but of non-scientific motivation, which does not belong to basic science. Excluding fusion implies a close link between the infinitely small and the infinitely large, which required specializations to explain plots of the reality of the Universe. The major problem is that the general relativity E = MC2 is not valid for the infinitely small. It is absolutely necessary to create a research unit to apply the latest discoveries while turning research into the basic sciences: The quest for Iter remains and will remain an experiment of sorcerer's apprentices on the fusion with a budjet worthy of the military budjet. The quest for cold fusion with gravitational confinement is a real scientific process requiring paper and pencil.

The cold fusion that 2 researchers, Fleishmann and Pons thought they had achieved in 1989, could never be reproduced. The majority of physicists consider that it has no theoretical basis that can be reconciled with current knowledge. But this is not the first time in the history of science. Logical, you are a graduate physicist who believes in what has learned it. An experiment questions the foundations of your theories. This experience cannot be repeated. It is easier to say that it is an accident than to question the foundations of the knowledge acquired. So a whole part of possible reflection is obscured by the people concerned themselves (not even need for censorship, there is self-censorship!). I think that this attitude reveals the power complex of scientists whose psychological profile is unique (psychoanalytic theory of Freud on the first 3 stages of psycho-emotional development) and that this only slows down the evolution of science.

This is where the technique of observation / contemplation must be used. Since 1989, there has been the resolution of the group binds E8 which was taken up to inspire the invention of the Theory of Everything and the artificial creation of mini black holes thanks to the LHC. These are lines of thought that should not be overlooked since the theory of the whole implies the link between the infinitely small and the infinitely large and the artificial creation of a black hole not only involves the creation of a powerful gravitational field. but above all the creation of a spatio-temporal deformation sufficient to increase the probability of fusional encounter of H by H by gravitational confinement, as in stars. The theory of the Whole specifies and makes obsolete E = mc2 whose field of application is limited compared to the model of the theory of the Whole ("ultra simple and ultra elegant", just like E = mc2 at the time of its creation. .) which establishes the link so much sought after by physicists (string and superstring theory) between gravity, electromagnetism, weak force and strong interaction.

First question: Can this theory be confirmed or refuted?

Yes with a lot of research and experimentation. This theory implies the existence of new particles which were not known until this theory and which the LHC could discover them. This theory largely replaces the previous theory which attempted this union between the infinitely small and the infinitely large: The theory of superstrings which involved the creation of additional dimensions. The fundamental question is therefore "what is more probable, the veracity of the theory of the Whole which implies the 3 dimensions spaces and 1 dimension time or the theory of superstrings which implies 1 dimension time and .... 10, 11 or 26 dimensional spaces that no one has ever proven exist ?! "

Second question: In the case of the confirmation of this theory, would that imply that E = mc2 is necessary?

E = mc2 does not apply in any way for the infinitely small. E = mc2 therefore remains viable but only in a restricted theoretical field of application.

Third question: How to use a theory (theory of the whole) which is not experimentally corroborated for the reflection of the cold fusion by using "H + H" at room temperature (in summary the fusion of stars without have the necessary gravity available for containment of which Iter provides the solution but with iatrogenic risks)?

The mini black holes created experimentally in the laboratory would bring with a minimum of iatrogenic risks the gravitation necessary for the confinement and partially deform the space-time of the gravitational confinement. Exactly reproduce the nuclear fusion of stars. By respecting the natural order of things, iatrogenic risks decrease considerably. Iter's Hot Melting Quest is a DIY craft of sorcerer's apprentice wanting to play God. The quest for cold fusion is a real scientific approach correlated with a human approach: The human approach must take precedence over the rest. At the heart of the stars, it is the H + H (proton + proton) combination, whose statistical probability is tiny, which initiates the long chain of thermonuclear reactions. With LHC which would produce a mini-black hole to increase the probabilities of fusion of H by H by deforming space-time and by providing the gravitation necessary for confinement. If we could reproduce these reactions, there would be 0% waste and unlimited "fuel" input. I do not think that the magnetic field is sufficient and without risk to confine a temperature of 100 million degree celsus, temperature higher than the sun with a plasma which is currently studied with the wrong tools (that is called DIY) !!! It's like trying to plug a tube of pressurized water with scotch® and wanting to compete at a high level with an unbroken horse! The current scientific method must be supplemented by a global reflection in order to open and enlarge the field of application of an idea and a theory in order to verify its validity but above all to avoid iatrogenic acts: It is the technique of observation / contemplation.

Research on nuclear fusion must be resumed at Zero. With paper and pencil. By favoring a theoretical reflection. By abandoning current physics. Civilian fusion involves the use of plasma outside the plasma is under the jurisdiction of chaos theory and non-linear science. It is necessary to use LHC for the creation of muons and mini black holes (for the gravitational field of confinement and the space-time deformation allowing the increase in the probability of encounter of H + H). The theory bringing together all the forces of the universe (theory of All based on the Lie E8 group) is the key to the success of cold fusion.

Cold fusion with gravitational confinement is currently considered impossible, but as Max Weber writes in Le Savant et la Politique, only the political vocation is the one who can lead this fight: "It is perfectly correct to say, and all the experience History confirms it, that we would never have been able to achieve the possible if in the world we had not always and ceaselessly attacked the impossible ".

In 5 billion years, the sun will have burnt all the hydrogen implying the end of the world. Hubert Reeves suggests recharging the heart with hydrogen. Hydrogen being in abundance in the outer layers of the nucleus, he proposes to send thermonuclear bombs in this region in order to "stir" the medium which would bring back hydrogen to the center of the Sun.

* According to current forecasts, the merger would happen in 3 stages:
1) Control of the fusion of deuterium to tritium.
2) Fusion of deuterium without tritium using helium 3 with deuterium.
3) Control of the fusion of the sun by gravitational confinement: currently hidden!

We must remind the Iter actors that "the main function of science is not to open a door to infinite wisdom, but to set a limit to infinite error" (Brecht). It would be time to consider the study of plasma, the basis of fusion, in terms of non-linear science instead of wanting to bring it in at all costs, from there to do DIY, to linear sciences.
Ladies and Gentlemen, the fusion specialists working at Iter, you have got the wrong path!


FREE ENERGY, FREE FOOD AND ACCESS TO WATER FOR ALL.

There is no choice, the world population will inevitably increase to 9 billion between 2050 and 2100. Even if the figures vary according to analysts, it is agreed by all specialists that the 10 billion inhabitants + the current state regarding agriculture, water and energy, will only worsen the ecological situation and create a global geopolitical crisis:

The rivers of China are born in Tibet, this is why the Chinese government is mean to Tibetan monks.

Even diplomacy will not be able to temper the stakes of the antagonistic countries. But when diplomacy fails, it involves factors leading to war. Human history has shown it. During a serious crisis, wars stabilize demography, revive the economy. Some thinkers sincerely believe that this is the only solution. History unfortunately proves them right. However, there is a difference with other wars. If there is a world crisis and an (atomic) war, reconstruction will not have the desired effect: Indeed, we no longer have "unlimited" resources! The model of the Earth system shows that in the same ecological niche, plants use the technique of cooperation. The decrease in natural resources will therefore force people to cooperate in order to survive.

There are therefore 2 possibilities:

- Pure and simple disappearance of the human race with a privileged minority as a survivor: The CIA predicts a nuclear war (unlike fission, the fusion will be much more destructive). This case is conceivable if the current governments do not react immediately, outside Grenelle is an illusion and an organized lie.

-Cooperation between nations: The enrichment of poor countries will inevitably lower the birth rate as in all rich countries correlated with massive reforestation of arid deserts, free food, water and energy.

Free energy to support human population growth without polluting:
-The nuclear fusion of hydrogen at the last stage of development (cold fusion) would support demographic growth in connected areas (90% of the world population will be grouped in urban areas), it would be an unlimited source of energy, non-polluting but unfortunately abandoned in favor of hot fusion (Iter). The solution is really not far, in many respects, but this energy will arrive in 2 stages (first time thermonuclear fusion with emission of isotopes still polluting and playing with 100 million degrees; second time, cold nuclear fusion non-polluting : If independent researchers speed up the thermonuclear fusion of Iter by demonstrating that cold fusion is more interesting economically, we would avoid stage 1 which, it seems to me, is even more frightening than the current nuclear fission. .). In the case of rising waters due to global warming but especially of the dilation of the water, the ultra-city areas (megalopolises) which are often found along the coast will be the most affected, causing a massive exaude of the population who will be homeless. This implies that the direct converter from the sun would serve the 2 billion people not connected to fusion energy + a few billion homeless.
-There will therefore be 2 billion people who will not be able to have access to fusion energy, as they are too isolated from energy plants: This is why we must develop clean energies and invent more efficient systems such as for geothermal energy (calorific compression system not efficient enough) and wind turbines (functional 25% of the time), because for the moment, in comparison with nuclear power, the efficiency is RIDICULOUS. It is absolutely necessary to bring together independent researchers to invent processes allowing the direct conversion of wind energy and light into electricity. The biosphere is self-regulating thanks to the 500 billion billion kilocalories from the sun (this energy is therefore 10.000 times more than the energy necessary for the current needs of Man). The future is therefore the direct converter of the sun into usable energy but the latter will not necessarily be electricity in the current state as we know it.

Free food:
Gaïa agriculture / fish farming offers a way of thinking and a suitable solution taking into account the psychological parameter of human nature. Because the relationship to food in humans is also psychological: This is why consumers want fruits and vegetables out of season, a question of control and power.

Free and access to water for all:
Free food allows access to drinking water. The main cause of death in the world is unsanitary conditions and the scarcity of drinking water: 1 million deaths per year. If at this precise moment, you spontaneously think that it is a means like any other to "regulate" the world population, I suggest you not to work in the Gaia project.

Politicians controlled by multinationals and lobbies know that the human species will somehow survive. They already have the technical solutions of the various current problems and anticipate in the event of a nuclear war: This implies that only those who have the power (a very small minority of people taking themselves for God) will survive at the expense of all the others . They wait until the last moment to earn more money and maintain their power as long as possible: "because what does a man of power want if not more power?" They only make us feel guilty, we mere mortals by using the media, pseudo resolutions for the "preservation" of the planet like Grenelle, by making us believe that we can spend less and pollute less on an individual scale.
But the majority of human beings are poor, do not spend or consume much.

Robert Dautray is considered a fumist by French specialists in nuclear fusion, for example by Pierre Billaud, one of the main responsible for the development of the A bomb, (see on his site http://pbillaud.club.fr/h1f.html et http://www.biobble.com/web/biobble.php?id=2006-250 ).

According to Pierre Billaud, Robert Dautray never intervened in nuclear fusion studies in France except to provide information on behalf of Alain Peyrefitte, minister and responsible for the project. According to Pierre Billaud, Robert Dautray is incompetent in this area but very strong in terms of communication: he is considered to be the father of the French H bomb while he never participated in the work, even from afar. Pierre Billaud's email: pbillaud.club.fr/index.htm, who turns 90 on Saturday!

So what are Robert Dautray's words worth?
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by agriculturegaia » 08/01/09, 11:33

But do you agree on that?

"A danger could concern proliferation: the tritium used and then produced by thermonuclear installations is, using minute masses, one of the main ingredients of nuclear weapons in high-level technological arsenals:"
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by Leo Maximus » 08/01/09, 13:29

agriculturegaia wrote:But do you agree on that?

"A danger could concern proliferation: the tritium used and then produced by thermonuclear installations is, using minute masses, one of the main ingredients of nuclear weapons in high-level technological arsenals:"

I have no opinion, except that tritium is used in the luminous hands of alarm clocks and watches and hydrogen bombs use lithium hydride not tritium but it is a question to ask Pierre Billaud is one of the very few nuclear weapons specialists who has a website and an e-mail address. It will be another opportunity for him to sink Robert Dautray! : Lol:

On Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I visited both cities and met some survivors, my first surprise was to learn that they were not Japanese! All those I met were of Korean and Taiwanese origin, their names had been "Japaneseized". The reality is quite different from the historical truth, most of the victims were civilians who were not even ethnic Japanese. Nagasaki was the largest Christian city in the East, the second atomic bomb exploded above Urakami Cathedral at the end of mass, Nagasaki was presented as a typical military target. What about the prisoners of war who were in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
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by Remundo » 08/01/09, 14:13

agriculturegaia wrote:But do you agree on that?

"A danger could concern proliferation: the tritium used and then produced by thermonuclear installations is, using minute masses, one of the main ingredients of nuclear weapons in high-level technological arsenals:"

The danger of tritium is not really there. H-bombs have been farting for a long time, and the most efficient fuel in this area is lithium hydride.

The great danger of tritium is that it combines with oxygen to form T2O or TOH. It is very pernicious, it cannot be seen and diffuses very easily everywhere by simple evaporation.

You tell me kézaco? Of naturally radioactive WATER which will infiltrate all organisms (plants and animals).

Tritium will settle in the tissues and joyfully send its ionizing radiation to it, which, as everyone knows, destroys DNA and causes cancer and then death ...

Really good, right? :?
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by agriculturegaia » 08/01/09, 14:23

So we all agree, current nuclear (fission) is not good, future nuclear (hot fusion) not good either so if nuclear must develop and last, in politics at least worse, c is cold fusion with gravitational confinement of plasma that would be the best alternative, right?
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