Fessenheim, the nuclear power plant has 30 years!

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by Did67 » 08/01/18, 18:23

And yet, it will be necessary to stop and dismantle one day! So pay the slate ... that we did not want to integrate, at its fair value, in the costs as long as it produced. This is called "provisioning" a predictable expense, without waiting. There is much to fear that EdF has not sufficiently provisioned [this is one of the reasons why French electricity is cheaper; it remains to be seen whether, in the event of bankruptcy or failure of EdF, it is not the police, and therefore everyone, who will pay what they have not paid on time].
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by Bardal » 08/01/18, 21:12

The already effective dismantling (mainly in the USA) had a cost roughly in EDF's forecasts ... But if it were necessary to further increase the provisioned capital, doubling it would only have an impact of 0,1 cts per kWh ...

Yes, it will have to be dismantled, but as much as it is after it has produced; and gain 10 or 20 years of operation is not a straw; it is 7 billion kWh per year, or 500 million euros per year and per tranche (or 1 billion for the 2 Fessenheim tranches); will that be enough to dismantle?

Note, a million electric cars, it never consumes only 7 billion kWh per year ... and we have so many ...
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by Remundo » 08/01/18, 21:23

Chooz, Brennilis, experiences abroad ... We estimate the dismantling of French power plants between 150 and 200 billion euros ... vertiginous
http://www.atlantico.fr/decryptage/nucl ... 16334.html

the Court of Auditors noted alarming amounts in the nuclear industry
https://www.caissedesdepotsdesterritoir ... 0263137433
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by Bardal » 09/01/18, 06:29

Yeah, well, Corinne Lepage's personal fantasies, I tend to smile about them; it was she who "estimated" the number of deaths of Chernobyl at 9 million (note, she could have also said 9 billion, that would not have bothered her); by dint of telling nonsense ...

More serious is the study by the Court of Auditors, which assesses EDF's annual investments to come at 3,3 billion euros (to supply 75% of electricity, compared to the 10 billion annual currently spent on renewable en , to supply 5 or 6% of electricity), and the dismantling of power plants at 18,8 billion (EDF has provisioned 17,5 billion); this Court of Auditors estimates that dismantling + waste will have only a marginal weight in the cost of the kWh, even if the whole of the costs tends to increase compared to those of 1970 ... All this is in conformity with what we already knew, and is rather reassuring.

Thank you Remundo for recalling all of this ...
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by Remundo » 09/01/18, 17:53

very reassuring ... that's the adjective I was looking for ... : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 31/01/18, 21:31

They are too strong ....

"Nothing justifies the need to close, as a priority, the Fessenheim nuclear power plant"


https://www.lesechos.fr/idees-debats/ce ... 149595.php
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by izentrop » 31/01/18, 22:20

It is however obvious: How will we provide carbon-free electricity to electric vehicles, knowing that renewable energies do not meet demand.
The energy transition law for green growth, voted in 2015, stipulates in particular that the share of nuclear electricity must be reduced from 75 to 50%.
It is not rational either, this decision ...
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by Christophe » 31/01/18, 22:59

Renewable energies do not meet demand because there are too many conn * rds at EdF, Areva (which has just changed its name to avoid their moral bankruptcy, because their financial bankruptcy is very real!) And co. Which have blocked almost all non-nuclear investments for 20 years ... For what purpose? I wonder: can Franco-nuclear elitism be preserved ???

In 10 years Germany has increased to 35% of RE !!!!

It would be nice to open your eyes from time to time!

Also you will ask the Japanese how they did when all their reactors were shut down following Fukushima ... They learned to manage their energy better to start!

So the argument for keeping nuclear because there is nothing to replace it is dumb!
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by izentrop » 31/01/18, 23:21

There are still 2 big flaws in this widely debated reasoning: The word "carbon free" that you have zapped and the word "intermittence" incompatible with the request.

Nuclear or fossil, we choose the irrational solution and you know it.
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by Christophe » 01/02/18, 00:40

a) To believe that French nuclear power will weigh on global CO2 emissions is quite naive as reasoning ...

b) There is a big carbon scam on the part of the nuclear industry: this one produces good and it is not me who says it is the ADEME! energies-fossil-nuclear / nuclear-and-effect-of-greenhouse-ges-co2-and-EDF-t8139.html

c) The intermittence of renewable energies is reduced as the different technologies are deployed

But the Germans are certainly incompetent ...
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