Explosion in a fuel warehouse

[Rulian]

Well ... uh ...

I really don't know. It is surely a story of winds.

After that I wouldn't even know how to locate the fireplace in the photo.

[Christophe]

well ... the hearth c the "North" vertex of the triangle right?

[The Passing]

Yes impressive ... but the tragedy is that with oil it is every day this much worse and in all "invisibility"

Like yesterday there was a funny report on Belgian TV on the impact of the cloud of this disaster that happened over Belgium.

Journalists' conclusion: imperceptible impact because local pollution in big cities is already much worse ... It is not tomorrow that we will hear such an anti-tongue-in-cheek speech on French channels ...

It is a little less serious side greenhouse effect to have oil badly burned as in this "accident": black smoke it is largely solid carbon, in the form of smoke, which will eventually fall by earth with the winds, etc ..., right?

[nonoLeRobot]

Yes the top of the triangle to the north is Buncefield (the hearth). When I see that I am impressed and I tell myself that I am really lucky, everything goes to the South (in France ), I am only 17 km away (but to the east) and I only see the smoke from afar without having anything.

Has anyone had an idea of ​​what this represents in comparison with fuel consumption in transport for example? (Consumption equivalent for one day of a capital, a region of a country etc ...)

[Christophe]

It is a little less serious side greenhouse effect to have oil badly burned as in this "accident": black smoke it is largely solid carbon, in the form of smoke, which will eventually fall by earth with the winds, etc ..., right?

Yes exact, I spoke about it above on this subject ... but hey ... to say that it is GOOD for the greenhouse effect to make incomplete combustion (polluting) annoys me all the same enormously ... but it's a fact ...

[Christophe]

Has anyone had an idea of ​​what this represents in comparison with fuel consumption in transport for example? (Consumption equivalent for one day of a capital, a region of a country etc ...)

Yes. With 2 methods:

1) See the beginning of this study: https://www.econologie.com/les-transport ... es-27.html

I had estimated that 2 km were covered per day in central Strasbourg and on the ring roads.

These 2 km correspond to approximately 000 L of fuel consumed (all vehicles were counted, including heavy goods vehicles). Knowing that Strasbourg has about 000 inhabitants, you can estimate with a ladle that the 200 tonnes of fuel correspond to consumption day.habitant.km (only on transport of course) depending on what you want.

2) More global method. Use the numbers on this page: https://www.econologie.com/l-emballement ... -2262.html

"We are basing ourselves on the 2001 figures for the consumption of oil and gas in Great Britain, namely:
1) 1,71 Million barrels / day for oil. (They will release around 250 billion kg of CO2 over a year.) "

150 tonnes of fuel therefore correspond to more or less 000 million barrels ... or less than a day of consumption for the UK ... what a pecatille!

[lau]

nono says: When I see that I am impressed and I tell myself that I am really lucky, everything goes to the South (in France Twisted Evil) I am only 17 km (but to the East) and I just see the smoke from afar without having anything

Keep us posted nono, we were starting to worry about you!

econology says: Yes. With 2 methods:

1) See the beginning of this study: https://www.econologie.com/les-transport ... es-27.html

here is what we can read in the reactions:

by jonule on 12/09/2005: 09:31

how to estimate eco (no) logistics and dare to display that the clean car would be a compilation of a fuel cell and a hydrogen tank?
what a shame to post information that is dated in +! (intro: "it may be that the information is dated given the progress made"): etc ...
don't you know M's water engine; Jean Marc Moreau for example, to name just him?
http://www.utopiatech.fr/

[Christophe]

Take the free advertising for utopia ... go get this ... but it seems to me that I had responded to this remark ...

[nonoLeRobot]

Good today there are clouds so we can't see anything.

Anyway it has been extinguished since yesterday but today, two containers have caught fire again, that said the firefighters have mastered it should go out by themselves.
http://fr.bluewin.ch/infos/index.php/fa ... 214:brf092

So end of the episode, now we should know the causes and the exact extent of what burned (It is indeed an excellent visual effect to show what we burn mine of nothing every day in our tanks)


For Lau, yes Christophe had answered and even if the solutions they propose are not perfect, he has the merit of proposing solutions that are applicable at least so Jonule's argument is not overwhelming.

[Christophe]

To return to the subject ...

What worries me about the "post pollution" level of the disaster is not the air but rather the billions of liters of water or other retardant or fireproof products, necessarily polluted by HC, which were used to contain and extinguish the fire ... I doubt that all the flows have been captured to be treated (especially water ...)