EPR: the future Chernobyl?

[bernardd]

An example of a municipality that has already decided to no longer buy electricity from EDF because of the construction of the EPR in Flamanville:
http://energie2007.fr/actualites/fiche/ ... 80310.html

This is the supply of electricity, which must be distinguished from the management of the network.

This is the same distinction as between:
- SNCF, which sells the service to travelers (= EDF or other suppliers, ENERCOOP in this case);
- and RFF, which manages and maintains the rails (= ErDF) and leases them to SNCF (or to others who arrive).

[dedeleco]

Official hidden info:
we neglect security:
And a new Chernobyl in France is more likely to happen than we think!

http://www.sortirdunucleaire.org/index. ... page=index

We learn that a Chernobyl type reactivity accident is possible on all French nuclear reactors: ......
For the second time concerning a crucial equipment for the safety of the EPR, the regulation is violated ...
The head of the nuclear fuel department at EDF suggests at the end of the note: "The ideal would be to try, for the reactors of the future, not to take this type of accident into account"


Thrilling, sooner or later as men are not infallible, a new Chernobyl will occur in France, even faster!

[Leo Maximus]

Indians protest against the EPR (December 2010): http://www.agirpourlaplanete.com/actual ... tapur.html

An Indian point of view, "the EPR, a nuclear problem, not an energy solution" (Fmota News, December 2010):
http://news.fmota.com/asia/jaitapur-ind ... ution.html

The AREVA EPR reactor vessel (Olkiluoto, Flamanville, Taishan) is manufactured by Japan's Japan Steel Works. The boss of Japan Steel Works recently received the Legion of Honor:

http://www.ambafrance-jp.org/spip.php?article3782

Group picture with lady (Anne Lauvergeon), AREVA boss in sober black suit:

[dedeleco]

Very informative these links !!
Areva au indes has decided to check, in a very populated area, if the EPR is resistant to 6 force earthquakes, such as 9, 1993 force to Jaïtapur and many others more or less forgotten, because close from the area where the Indian plate descends (Ganges valley) to descend under Asia and the Hymalaya at the speed of 6,3cm per year !!
Also the force of the earthquakes certainly exceeds 7 to join those of Japan of force 9 rarely but surely.

The method of feedback used by Areva will soon be very seriously wrong here, because ignoring the earthquakes a little old (not rated) and 9 force, as Japan did with the tsunami height 26m, announced by geologists and even with the previous, listed in history in 869 !!
In India the previous force 9 is not listed, but existed !!

Moreover their Lobby is free without regulation.
http://news.fmota.com/asia/jaitapur-ind ... ution.html

* Weak regulation * ** India lacks an independent nuclear safety regulator. An independent, wellresourced nuclear safety authority is the main pillar of minimizing the risks inherent in the use of nuclear power. The six board members include India's nuclear safety agency, the Atomic Energy Regulatory Board (AERB), and NPCIL, the operator-to-be of Jaitapur EPR power plant. AERB reports to the Department of Atomic Energy (DAE), which is responsible for the promotion of nuclear power, and owns NPCIL and directly owns and operates nuclear facilities.
The interference has manifested itself in the AERB, with the approval of the Commission, and with the approval of the Commission.The safety status of nuclear energy in India is far below international standards, and in the absence of an independent regulatory body.. "10 The low standard of nuclear safety in India can be seen from frequent cases of safety system malfunctions, leaks of radioactive materials and environmental contamination11. The situation in India is in clear violation of the International Atomic Energy Agency Convention on Nuclear Safety (1994) to which India is a party ..
A single reactor typically produces several hundred kilograms of plutonium each year - a sufficient amount for nuclear weapons of nuclear weapons.

[Christophe]

But no but no keskevous tell it!

The EPR will be the most ON of presurized water reactors and even in case of fusion, the Corium will never flee ... It is Areva who says it, believe them!

More seriously, there are some explanatory diagrams in this document: https://www.econologie.com/accidents-nuc ... -4341.html

[Obamot]

Indians protest against the EPR (December 2010): http://www.agirpourlaplanete.com/actual ... tapur.html

An Indian point of view, "the EPR, a nuclear problem, not an energy solution" (Fmota News, December 2010):
http://news.fmota.com/asia/jaitapur-ind ... ution.html

The AREVA EPR reactor vessel (Olkiluoto, Flamanville, Taishan) is manufactured by Japan's Japan Steel Works. The boss of Japan Steel Works recently received the Legion of Honor:

http://www.ambafrance-jp.org/spip.php?article3782

Group picture with lady (Anne Lauvergeon), AREVA boss in sober black suit:

Ahurissant !!! She / they eat decidedly to all the rakers ...

[sen-no-sen]

Another delay for the EPR:

http://www.lepoint.fr/economie/coup-dur-pour-l-epr-01-04-2011-1314300_28.php

I quote: "(...) By his words, the president of ASN in fact implicitly recognized that the French third generation reactor designed by Areva has not been studied any more than the 58 others in France in order to to resist a chain of natural disasters, such as an earthquake and a tsunami. ...

it's all about comments ...

[cyrilledemil]

Hello,

In the show "Crossword" presented by Yves Calvi Monday 11 April 2011, we had as guest, to discuss the relevance of guard the civilian nuclear, besides JM Jancovici also Noël Mamère, you know it's the Olivier Deleuze French. They are no more lucky than us and then everyone has to carry his cross. He has thus served us are eternal "out of the nuclear" progressive. But why progressive, since this way is so dangerous, put back in twenty years what can be done right away? It's because we have to find alternatives! Oh, and it will be easier in ten or twenty years?

However, it is possible right away, since this gentleman, who distributes good and bad points, quotes in the same program examples of countries that have, and others that do not have nuclear power plants. The Dutch have a standard of living quite comparable to that of the Belgians and they manage to live without using atomic energy, unlike their neighbors to the south. Proof that it is perfectly possible to live comfortably without. But what Mr. Mamère carefully avoids to say is that our Batavian friends are more than doubling, yes you read well, more than twice as many CO2 as we are, for a population, it is true, of 16 million. inhabitants against 11 million. Which makes, however, a famous difference. But when we love, we do not count!

Yes precisely, it is to avoid that it must go in small steps.

Okay, so let's see; the world population is increasing by 200.000 individuals per day and in addition, a share, not quite negligible, I will say 2 to 3 billion people see, or at least hope to see, their standard of living improve. Just the combination of these two factors will make that by 2050 the energy demand of humanity will increase considerably. Renewable energies will not, at best, even cover half of this increase. If it is necessary to further reduce, and it will be done anyway, because the resources will eventually run out, our dependence on fossil fuels, for sure, the exit of the nuclear, it will be done the fingers in the nose!
In fact, every passing day, every passing minute, the gap between what nature can offer us, without putting ourselves in danger, and what humanity aspires to have, is growing. What is almost unachievable today, will be impossible tomorrow and even more after tomorrow.

So why, propose an outing for later?
In fact, I have my idea.
Simply because today, it is very likely to be antinuclear.
If you want to win votes it's easier to position yourself against.
So, to promise for tomorrow is to kill two birds with one stone.
In ten or twenty years, your parliamentary term will be over and you will have benefited from the situation. It is comical to see that there are those who accuse others of opacity, who have become master of the language of wood.

Cyrille Demil.

[sen-no-sen]

Hello,


the gap between what nature can offer us, without putting ourselves in danger, and what humanity aspires to have, is growing. What is almost unachievable today, will be impossible tomorrow and even more after tomorrow.

Hello Cyril, and welcome to the forum.
The problem lies on this point: "(...) and what humanity aspires to have" (...).
Mankind has existed for almost 200 000 years, the increasing demands for energy as for it have only a few decades of existence, they are only the reflection of an ideology based on the endless growth.
The major problem lies in the spread of this model on a global scale, not in the needs of humanity itself.
With regard to the exit of the nuclear power, this would be relatively easy by means of a behavior of less consumption.
Alas we can not both sell a product and say not to buy it ...
Ecologists need to seduce the electorate, and so to make concessions, if they advocated decay, I do not think many people would want to vote for them, and their political opponents would give themselves to heart.
In addition many of the ecologists are the ass between two chairs: on one side they do not want a nuclear power plant, but on the other they do not want wind turbines either .... And I do not even talk about high 300m vortex towers ... so it's easier to run away, old method of politicos!

[Janic]

Cyril's reaction is logically unstoppable and has been known for more than 50 years. The same thing happens with food and particularly animal production for human consumption. The consumption of meat in countries with strong economic growth will be confronted with the impossibility of supplying as many "animal proteins" as there will be demanders. So either humanity will return to reduced animal consumption for better global distribution or else livestock will "eat" up to the smallest piece of forest (lung of the world) and diseases, called civilization, will grow at the same rate as the billions of animals sacrificed for the sole pleasure of taste and social promotion.