jlt22 wrote:However, everything that is produced is consumed by the consumers that we are. These are increasing exponentially, because the Chinese and the Indians have an increasing standard of living and want to consume like the Europeans and the Americans.
Sorry, it's going to fall on you (don't take it personally, please) but I can't stand to read and hear this "India and China excuse" (because it is one) ... which aims to take our responsibility away from us, the Westerners !
So I think this is what we have been told and told about for years, I feel more and more that we are being manipulated: for cultural, religious and educational reasons I am less and less convinced that all Chinese and all Indians dream of a car and of surround objects of consumption + or - futile ... Those who claim that all Indians want to consume like Westerners are Westerners who know absolutely nothing about Indian culture or religion. I don't know much either, but enough to know that cala has nothing to do with ours ...
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophie_indienne
There are obviously "naughty materialists" but in proportion much less than with us since with us it is 9/10 of the population (we also have an excuse: we were "trained" for)
Now, 1% of Indians or Chinese, ok that's already twice the size of France, I grant you!
I remind you all the same that the oil energy intensity of India is SUPERIOR to that of France: in other words, it takes more oil to create a $ of GDP in France than in India: https://www.econologie.com/forums/petrole-et ... t5022.html
I also have in mind this Indian canteen equipped with parabolic concentrators which allow to cook several tens of thousands of meals per day: we had talked about it here https://www.econologie.com/forums/produit-de ... 84-70.html
To my knowledge, it does not exist with us !!!
jlt22 wrote:The consumers that we are are ready to do anything to acquire all the innovations that manufacturers produce.
So we are the ones responsible for all this mess,
because we don't know how to say no.
+1 the manager in the end is indeed the buyer ... the marketing of the last 30 years has specialized in "creating the need" ...
jlt22 wrote:Before fighting to regulate the energies, we should drastically reduce our consumption, namely:
-to become vegetarians
-living in passive collective housing, finished the small individual house
-living near our work and using only collective public transport or cycling and walking
- consume only local products.
- do not waste (half of the agricultural production goes to the trash)
-not clutter with superfluous gadgets, see useless
-spend your vacation in your corner fishing or strolling in nature, if necessary only use the train to go a little further
This list is far from being exhaustive.
Funny, I am convinced that the vast majority of Hindus or Chinese currently practice this ...