Lower taxes: a liter of gasoline to less than € 0,6 !!!

[nonoLeRobot]

Like what genetic manipulation or not, we are never sure of the result

[Remundo]

Lower the global population ... How?

Have you mastered the birth rate of poor countries?

[highfly-addict]

Thank you bham, it's a pleasure!

I know ..... it's a dream ......

If "we" stopped despoiling these populations, that we pay them the right price for their work, what would happen?

[Remundo]

Hi Bham,
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-Do you have enough confidence in the legislators in place in your country? Me no.
-Do you think that they are in majority sufficiently honest and independent to guarantee ABOVE ALL the good of the citizens? Me no.
-Do you think they are mostly curious and critical enough to analyze for themselves a thick file of several directories without being scientists? Me no.
-Do you think they always have ALL the information in their study files? not necessarily.
-Do you think they are well surrounded by sufficiently honest and independent advisers? Not necessarily.

Do you at least trust something? It emerges from your haunting enumeration "all vicious incompetents, so let's not touch anything and say NAN, NAN, NAN, NAN".

It is surely not your most constructive tirade on econology

it is only to see the US reaction to the French frost of Monsanto Corn.

Well then, there wouldn't be only incompetent merchants in France

Therefore for me, the common rule is not to trust because we can no longer trust a democratic system whose only law is money and profit, even before the notions of public health and respect for human nature.

Lyrical flight not false, but not 100% true either ... And as Christophe would say, the "system" is above all what men make of it, and the system is only a reflection of statistically averaged human nature. I know, it's not cheerful, but that's how Mother Nature made us

However in Europe, and especially in France, there is a marked social concern, and that's good. But as I said before, no social policy can be carried out without profits generated by the market (especially industrial innovation ...), whether you like the driving forces of this market or not ...

Having said that, do not do anything with GMOs, but also do nothing : that is worthy of an ostrich. GMOs can provide many benefits by using them wisely. I am thinking of the emergence of a high-yield oilseed sector, for example. Or plants / animals synthesizing rare proteins to treat men ... Don't put your blinders on guys, and swap your benevolence against anti-neo-capitalist GMOs with a scientific apocalypse tendency for a measured thought, asking the pros and cons, thus opening the way for a possible, useful and rational use of GMOs.

Finally, well, I think I have said enough about GMOs, and I would prefer that we talk about expensive oil on this forum...

So even if it means going back to cave times, I prefer to apply the precautionary principle.

I urge you to sleep there for a week; go hunting / gathering in the morning with a stripped stick and an animal skin and we will talk about it again

Friendly and @ +

[gegyx]

And blah blah blah.
and again the pseudo-scientific argument of irresponsible officials, even though it falls under the meaning,
of a common person.
Weird, birazre! ...
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The opinion of anti GMOs is differentiated.

Even among the ransacking ultra gochos of the sows (peasant confederation) and the enlightened Gallic Bové.

- There are radicals who do not want to hear about GMOs at all (by playing with DNA we spread the branches, and the cell ends up with the physiognomy of a plant suffering from cancer)

- And there are others who are ready to accept them conditionally.

First of all, in view of the uncertainties and the damage announced, all are calling for a 5-year moratorium on GMOs.

Study GMOs, for therapeutic and humanitarian purposes, yes, of course, on the exclusive condition that this be done in a vacuum. To avoid any wild accidental spread.

But above all, categorical refusal to eat GMOs, which contain an insecticide, or a substance useless for health, and susceptible to toxicity or allergic phenomena.

Consider the real usefulness of these GM crops compared to rustic ones, or selective ones by crossbreeding or duplication.

Test in closed fields for several years before doing so in open and limited fields.

Is that clearer ?

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Currently the Monsanto policy, supported by mafia-politicians, is to impose the worst solution, immediately, so that it is irreversible, while eliminating (eradicating) competition from pure rustic strains, the know-how of farmers, and by appropriating exclusively the patents of nature.

[bham]

You're tiring Remundo!

[Remundo]

Well Gegyx, we agree! Alleluia

[jonule]

the principle of conservation must have avoided a lot of errors in the past ... when we hear that the jancovici commission ordered it to be deleted, there is reason to doubt the responsibility of such "responsible" eh remundo ?!

Having said that, do not do anything with GMOs, but also do nothing : that is worthy of an ostrich. GMOs can provide many benefits by using them wisely. I am thinking of the emergence of a high-yield oilseed sector, for example. Or plants / animals synthesizing rare proteins to treat men ... Don't put your blinders on guys, and swap your benevolence against anti-neo-capitalist GMOs with a scientific apocalypse tendency for a measured thought, asking the pros and cons, thus opening the way for a possible, useful and rational use of GMOs.

I say you have too much head in the clouds and not enough feet on the ground.
it's good to think but you have to do too, and the crazy wizards who claim that we can do everything with the atom broke their teeth when they saw what thernobyl could do.
should that have been a lesson, however? !!!

it's also very easy to "imagine" as you say plants producing more oil, and why not who would make electricity, eh, or who would make coffee in the morning? ah well, I am going to get started!

as for the GMOs caring for the sick, not to mention the cost and accessibility, when you have an example we can talk about it, meanwhile the price of geniton research returns to Monsanto because of this pretext ... where are the people healed?

must return 2 feet in the ground! and looking more closely at nature, instead of trying to reinvent it, there is already plenty to do.

[Remundo]

OK Jonule! I apply the "principle of conservation" right away , I tap on my keyboard and I do nothing effective ... I have one foot on Earth and the other on the edge of the drawer.

[jonule]

Cooool!
isn't it better like that?

go for a fresh organic beer as long as you do (they are better), outside the weather is nice