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Re: Summer Digressions on Public Debt




by Ahmed » 06/09/16, 22:13

We must make a distinction between an immanent criticism which denounces consequential drifts, a criticism, let's say "metaphysical", which is concerned above all with the deep and systemic causes. Of course, the two interact ...
The idea that it would be enough to remedy these flagrant abuses would be enough to restore a healthy economy, "à la papa", is a pure illusion which results only from a deep ignorance of the determinisms in play.
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by Obamot » 07/09/16, 10:23

Doing the type of approach you describe seems to me to be anything but "metaphysical" : Mrgreen:
(although I understand what you mean)

I would say that on the contrary it is the supposed "economic science"which suddenly comes under a kind of metaphysics, when we see in which contradictions swim some of its actors (towards whom my symbolic exposure pointed) and on what is based the alleged"market law"according to the biased paradigm of supply vs demand.

God in comparison would seem to be something "concrete" : Mrgreen:
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by Obamot » 07/09/16, 10:30

Doing the type of approach you describe seems to me to be anything but "metaphysical" : Mrgreen:
(although I understand what you mean)

I would say that on the contrary it is the supposed "economic science"which suddenly comes under a kind of metaphysics, when we see in which contradictions swim some of its actors (towards whom my symbolic exposure pointed) and on what is based the alleged"market law"according to the biased paradigm of supply vs demand.

God in comparison would seem to be something "concrete" : Mrgreen:

Precisely, to return to the concrete, there are 4 things that overlap together here:
1) the current state of the economy (which does not enter into the theoretical debate, it is just a state at a time "T": inflation, deflation, stagflation ...)
2) the theoretical debate which is the observation of point "1"
3) catching attempts between 1 and 2, which can drift into a sort "attempt to continue therapeutic relentlessness "...
4) the real good approach, which is a forward-looking reflection (what it would be worth doing to get out of it and which is above all not of the order of "metaphysical".

I sometimes have the impression that in discussions, we jump from one theme to another (observation of the facts VS reforms to be undertaken) without clearly establishing what is what ... Foresight cannot be subject to the same style of criticism as the facts, by jumping from rooster to donkey, we get lost a little.
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by Obamot » 07/09/16, 13:08

PS: so agree that we have to make distinctions, but the good ones (ooops triple post)
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by Ahmed » 07/09/16, 13:17

That was the meaning of my previous message: to distinguish between criticism of the moment "t" from a fundamental criticism.
The term "metaphysics" is not bad, if we consider that it applies to the purposes of the system, which is the accumulation of abstract value ... and to the need to substitute others for it. objectives, both concrete, but also of the order of ethical values ​​(rather than ethical, as is the case!).
Of course, the economy that claims to account for such a phenomenon is forced to do some logical acrobatics ...
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by eclectron » 21/10/16, 16:43

moinsdewatt wrote:
eclectron wrote: S ......

Only physical reality can be worrying: scarcity of resources, especially oil which is irreplaceable to this day as soon as wireless mobility is needed!
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We have found the answer since.

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unearthing post ... sorry i just saw your answer lessdewatt

electric or hydrogen car, it's good, it's clean.
autonomy is not the same as for gasoline because of the nonexistent infrastructure, we can say that it is not a problem if we give ourselves the means.
The problem is that electricity and hydrogen are secondary energies.
Either Enr or nuclear is needed for these vehicles.
going without oil is not going to be an easy task, I am almost convinced that the "ON" will choose (in our place) oil from coal, of which the planet still has good reserves.
do not spoil! : Lol: (ironic)
Although I am a climate optimist, I would like a cleaner and less aggressive resource for the environment than coal.
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