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by Obamot » 17/08/16, 13:17

If it's Tartuffe: then I would rather say Molière!

Between look at the navel* and do it from scratch**, there is only one step... : Mrgreen:

* the meisanthrope
** from nothing = the absence of ... ex nihilo is...
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by Obamot » 17/08/16, 15:39

After, very late last year WHO (preceded by UNSCEAR) INSERM if (finally) also puts (you will tell me that it is so far all that ...)

INSERM, Nicolas Foray, researcher in the radiobiology group wrote:
Radioactivity: low doses, high doses, are we all equal?

[...] the study of low doses on human cells has revealed unexpected non-linear phenomena such as cell death rates as high at 0,1 Gy as at 1 Gy [...]

These studies have above all shown that the individual factor can drastically change the toxic response and carcinogenesis to low dose irradiation.

Should we consider the risk of radio-induced cancers in the 0-100 mSv interval as proportional to the dose (linear model without threshold) or on the contrary as negligible (non-linear model with threshold)? A debate has started between scientists ... [...]

The radiation protection rules proposed by the International Commission on Radiological Protection (ICRP) do not yet take into account individual susceptibility to radiation, although this may be a more important factor than the type of radiation or the organ irradiated. .] technological advances in genomics and mass analysis as well as the development of research on the biological effects of low doses of radiation will undoubtedly change this position in the years to come but will pose many practical and ethical problems.

http://www.inserm.fr/actualites/rubriqu ... tous-egaux

QED:

The lines are moving.
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by izentrop » 17/08/16, 17:09

Christophe wrote:


Already it is intoxicating because the director of the plant died a few months after the disaster ... of cancer .... necessarily not related to the disaster according to the official version ...

Then I strongly suggest you to go for a small internship of 3 or 4 weeks in the "red" zone of Fukushima ... the hotels are there now and for a few more years at an unbeatable price !!

  1. http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/france-monde ... b0n1400661
  2. If I am paid for the trip, why not.
  3. Who tells you there too that it is more dangerous than elsewhere?
Give tangible proof of what you say.

Obamot: WHO reports only suit you when they work your way.
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by Obamot » 17/08/16, 18:24

As long as you're the one who uses outdated reports to get intoxicated, I'm quiet : Lol:
You rather make fun with yours based on models dating before the discovery of DNA. : Mrgreen:

This especially as I say the same for almost 7 years, long before WHO, UNSCEAR, and INSERM finally admits it.
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You are like the geocenters who in their time saw the flat earth and would have burned you if you said the opposite.

But no Izenchose the Earth is not flat ... no it is not (it is not quite round either).
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by Ahmed » 17/08/16, 20:04

No, the geocenters did not see the flat Earth and did not burn anyone on the sole claim to the contrary, but I understand that it is a picture ... 8)
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by moinsdewatt » 17/08/16, 21:11

Obamot wrote:.........
You are like the geocenters who in their time saw the flat earth and would have burned you if you said the opposite.

But no Izenchose the Earth is not flat ... no it is not (it is not quite round either).


You mix everything.
At the time the question was NOT about the roundness of the earth but whether or not the Earth was the center of '' everything '' (ie the sun turning around the Earth or vice versa).
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by Christophe » 17/08/16, 21:31

Not just the sun, the Universe ...

Not sure that the 2 theories (geocentrism and flat earth) did not coexist for a long time ...
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by Ahmed » 17/08/16, 21:44

Geocentrism is quite natural and comes from a superficial observation (the sun "rises" in the east and "sets" in the west), moreover it corresponded to the philosophical, then religious idea of ​​a correspondence between the perfection of creation and the qualitative layering of the different "spheres" (7 in all): in the center, that (sublunary) housing the human species (yes, it's quite navel-gazing!).
The flat earth theory had long been invalidated when this debate between geocentrism and heliocentrism appeared.
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by Obamot » 17/08/16, 22:10

And precisely, you are all right, these geocenters there were claiming wrong things.

Precisely what Izentrop regularly does all the time, based on clichés to be recycled. : Lol:

Thank you for raising it in its place, not sure it would have succeeded : Mrgreen: and even whatever, since for some: low dose irradiation does not kill, animals frolic "without suffering" and in "healthy"In the still heavily contaminated areas near Chernobyl, Roundup can be greedily drinkable without danger and GMOs are a blessing for nature ...

The only thing missing is the Pick on the board (necessarily harmless since produced by a renowned laboratory!)

What "science"! :P : Oops:
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Re: Deaths from fossil fuels, nuclear and hydroelectric




by Obamot » 19/07/20, 07:24

Cancer / covid-19: haro on low dose irradiation

Here is the indirect and implicit proof of the dangerousness of low dose irradiation

Stop unnecessary dental x-rays!
At the dentist, screening X-rays are taken routinely, up to once a year, even if there has been no cavities for a long time. A dangerous practice for health because it unnecessarily increases the risk of cancer of the brain, skin and salivary glands.

Meningiomas of the base of the skull: What is their origin?
Meningiomas do not come from the dura, but from arachnoid cell clusters whose mesodermal or neural crest origin is still debated. This has two important implications for the surgery: on the one hand the arachnoid plane which should allow the capsule to be dissected off the vasculo-nervous elements is not constant, on the other hand a pial vascularization (branches of cerebral arteries) is common. The etiology is unknown, but genetic factors have been demonstrated in cases of neurofibromatosis II and familial meningiomatosis (chromosome 22). Low dose irradiation (typically for scalp ringworm) may develop a late-onset radiation-induced meningioma ; 1 this could appear to contradict the use of radiotherapy in the treatment of meningiomas. Hormonal factors have also been implicated: the predominance of attack in post-menopausal women, the demonstrated progression of the tumor during pregnancy and the presence of numerous receptors (progesterone, dopamine D1, somatostatin, serotonin) intra-tumors have This led to attempts at hormonal treatments, the results of which were however disappointing.2 Finally, the relationship with a chronic inflammatory state, a virosis (herpes, papova) or a former trauma has only been mentioned occasionally.

Source: Swiss Medical Review


The risk is increased in the event of infection by covid-19, especially by the fact that the low dose irradiation affects the respiratory tract and consequently the lungs, which is one of the major weak points of people “to risks ”
It plays out very little ...
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