A new fuel: diesel-kerosene

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by denis » 06/08/07, 21:15

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Flytox wrote:If you do not forget to reduce the consumption of the plane to the number of passengers transported you will notice that consumption and pollution is quite comparable to that of an automobile or even better! : Mrgreen:


Exact, and besides an article I had made on this subject earned me a lot of criticism: https://www.econologie.com/avions-et-co2 ... s-715.html

However, with a little hindsight, there is still an important fact to take into account: an airplane travels in a few hours the annual distance of an average car ... in other words, we rarely drive 5000 km in one go ...

Flytox wrote:In fact it is not yet quite expensive this Kerosene. (Now I'm making lots of friends ... Ouch!)
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Not at all, all the econologists should agree with your words (all the greens also in fact ...). Would you also be a fan of Jancovici? : Cheesy:



I do not agree, I am not an engineer, having a level of study not at the top, I can hardly argue my words; but the friction of the air making it possible to float the enormous weight of an airplane must slow down enormously, therefore much more energy lost than a car. the calculations are bo : Cheesy: but, you need all the parameters, and just data! otherwise the result is very far from the real. How is kerosene consumption assessed? you don't have real consumption !! and if we talked about the drops of full kerosene in case of early returns, there, the balance sheet increased! and yes, if in the event of an unexpected stop, you had to empty 50 l of petrol on the road : Cheesy: however this is the usual procedure, the best place to judge this here would still be our dear ANDRE :D
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by Christophe » 06/08/07, 21:46

The low consumption of planes is obviously obtained when the plane is filled ... and the calculation is to their advantage when the car is not (filled) ...

In practice you have to take into account the average occupancy rate ... I doubt that that of planes is as low as that of cars (1,3 to 1,6 people out of 5 or more) ...

Think again about the friction of planes, the Dieselis consumes 3,5L per 100 for 2 people ... at 180km / h ... No car does that ... not even the Prius (by far ...)

I quote:

Cruising speed at 40% of power: 180 km / h with the 1500 engine, consumption 6,3 l / h (i.e. 3,5 L / 100km), and 195 km / h with the 1700 engine, consumption 7,4 l / h (i.e. 3,78 L / 100km).


see http://membres.lycos.fr/dieselis/

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by denis » 06/08/07, 22:05

I bow! : Cheesy:
it's very amazing! : Shock:
my next hot-rod will be powered by an airplane : Cheesy:
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by evamu » 01/03/10, 08:28

Hello,

is that a car (turbo diesel without direct injection) runs with a kero / diesel mixture (50% -50%)
does the injection pump risk nothing?
I know it works on diesel without turbo?

Thanks to the experts

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by Flytox » 01/03/10, 20:49

evamu wrote:Hello,

is that a car (turbo diesel without direct injection) runs with a kero / diesel mixture (50% -50%)
does the injection pump risk nothing?
I know it works on diesel without turbo?

Thanks to the experts

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Hello evamu

A work colleague has walked for years with kero mixed with Diesel and even pure on an R18 Diesel. There have never been many injection pump problems. It works exactly the same and it could be a little different ...
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by Former Oceano » 01/03/10, 20:57

Already that we don't drive too hard with a conventional diesel, we drive even cooler with aircraft fuel.

We ride in kero - ZEN ... : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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by evamu » 02/03/10, 08:31

I know a person who drives with a Kéro / diesel mixture on a 1.9D VOLKSWAGEN engine from 1995 and no problem,
my question was just to know if there was a difference with a turbo diesel knowing that the injection pumps are not the same (more fragile maybe)

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by oiseautempete » 02/03/10, 20:29

Rotodiesel pumps e.g. are more sensitive to the lack of lubrication, kerosene A1 being very dry ... when mixing it must pass, but pure, no ...
I knew a broke guy who drove at kero A1 (recovery of tank empties more usable on plane) with a self petrol: he started on petrol, and went to hot kero engine, it smoked but it worked. .
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by evamu » 03/03/10, 09:37

Thank you oiseautempete for your answer,

but when you talk about mixing, are you talking about kero / diesel mixture or kero / oil mixture?
How much do you cut the keros?

What is a rotodiesel pump? :?: :?:
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