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by Flytox » 26/09/11, 22:01

citro wrote:I can already imagine the land of former nuclear power plants converted to organic pastures ... : Evil:


It will also be good in summer camps for the CE of the Elysee, the families of leaders of AREBA, BDF etc ... They gave so much of their person for the construction of these works that would be a fair return of the things. :P
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by Christophe » 26/09/11, 22:17

Avera and Edf you mean, you can quote :) We ... € mm € rd € !!

Hey Flytox, all the more reason ... not to dismantle !!

Program of activities for children of the EDF CE:
- Environmentally heated blue azure pool (for 30 years)
- Infrared sauna in the steam generator :) also green (it consumes nothing!)
- Ultra fast tanning in the heart
- Legionella bungee jumping
- etc etc ... to develop!

So it's not nuclear-friendly? huhuhu!

Just for information: the EDF CE receives € 400 million in subsidies per year.
One more social row ... : Evil:
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by Flytox » 04/10/11, 23:23

Marcoule accident: 500 times more radioactivity in the oven than initially stated, EDF lied
Centraco accident: death and questions pending

As usual...

Read more here:

http://groupes.sortirdunucleaire.org/Ac ... -fois-plus
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by dedeleco » 05/10/11, 00:46

We must thank the CRIRAD who had it corrected, noting that the unnatural radioactivity of the dead man, 8,5 microSievert / h, was incompatible with that officially declared, and by filing a legal complaint !!!
Lire:

http://www.criirad.org/actualites/dossi ... ntraco.pdf
http://www.criirad.org/
http://www.criirad.org/actualites/dossi ... coule.html
http://www.criirad.org/actualites/dossi ... rcoule.pdf

In France as in Japan, the lie is a certainty, not to disturb our sleep !!!

What to think about the criminal responsible for preventable accidents, of all companies, EDF, subcontractors, Areva, even in Italy end of impunity by dilution of those responsible, better than in Japan or France (AZF: nothing, etc.):
In Turin, they were called Antonio Schiavone, Roberto Scola, Angelo Laurino, Bruno Santino,
Rocco Marzo, Giuseppe Demasi, Rosario Rodinò. Workers in the Thyssenkrupp steel factory in Turin,
they died one evening in December 2007, killed by a fire following an explosion. The direction of
group had decided to no longer invest in security, the company to be closed. The day after
the accident, a huge demonstration of indignation in the streets of Turin had given support to families
and expressed a vibrant appeal to justice. Death at work, "white death" as it is designated by
Italians, is the most unjust, the most unworthy violence of industrial power.
On April 16, 2011, the Turin Criminal Court ordered 16 and a half years in prison closes the director
general of the steel branch of the German group Thyssen Krupp, Harald Espenhahn, 45, from Essen
(western Germany), tried for "intentional homicide". Forty-eight former workers had formed
civil party, as well as the municipality and province of Turin, the region of Piedmont, unions and
associations. Severe sentences also imposed on five other plant managers
Thyssenkrupp. Gerald Priegnitz, Marco Pucci, Raffaele Salerno and Cosimo Cafuerri were sentenced to 13
and 6 months
, Daniele Moroni to 10 years and 10 months in prison for "manslaughter" (Il Manifesto, 17
April 2011).
The associations Henri Pézerat and Subcontracting - Health - Nuclear - Chemistry call for the
mobilization to break the indifference and impunity of those who, in Marcoule as in Turin, carry the heavy
responsibility for the death of young workers killed on the job
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by Grelinette » 24/10/11, 11:06

I may write a nonsense ...
but I live in the south of France, not far from the center of Cadarache where the ITER project is developing, and regularly we have information which announces that the financial envelope of the project has further increased and that we are now at. .. to ... I don't even know!

Several tens of billions of euros at least.

In short, at this price, only to heat water (because ultimately a nuclear power plant is only a big pressure cooker), it would not be easier to dig a very deep hole to the earth's magma to make heat the water? ...
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by clasou » 24/10/11, 11:19

Bonjour,
Yes it will heat better, however to find volunteers to dig.
Good for iterating, I don't know but when you see that the epr has already doubled and when the work is no longer stopped.
The price of electricity is not about to drop :)
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by dedeleco » 24/10/11, 18:34

No need to dig very deep, because the sun sends 1KW of power on any surface perpendicular to its rays and it is enough to store underground this summer heat at 10 to 30m to recover it in winter, heat and even rotate power plants with solar heat concentrated by parabolic mirrors at 300 ° C or more and kept below ground not very deep like a superficial mini volcano !!

No one is considering it but it is infinitely safer than ITER to provide fission energy, that of the sun, less expensive with funds lost in 15 billion € and much less dangerous than the nuclear power plants which will make a Fukushima in France sooner or later !!!
see www.dslc.ca and all the posts on econology !!
https://www.econologie.com/forums/chaleur-d- ... 10828.html

https://www.econologie.com/forums/stockage-d ... 10173.html
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post214146.html#214146
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by jlt22 » 07/11/11, 11:05

Are consumers ready to pay the price for going out of nuclear power, at least if the energy bosses are to believe:
[url] http://www.lesechos.fr/entreprises-sectors/energie-environnement/actu/0201730600954-sortie-du-nucleaire-les-patrons-de-l-energie-font-leurs-comptes-244918.php ? xtor = EPR-1500- [la_une_matin] -2011 [/ url]
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by chatelot16 » 07/11/11, 12:39

the safest method is the egyptian method: pyramid: if it had had nuclear power plants it would have been well protected for a few thousand years

the solution is good to cement solidly ... not the prefabricated concrete shed of Chernobyl: a real massive construction

if this construction is solid enough we can put it with other nuclear waste ... why scatter them elsewhere, as much put everything in the same place

this pyramid-like construction must be clearly visible so that the danger below remains known ... not hidden pseudo rehabilitated
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by dedeleco » 07/11/11, 14:38

In Kiev they have a new solution:
microbes reduce the radioactivity of cesium in harmless barium:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post215645.html#215645

It will be enough to make the plant eat by the microbes in compost !!

True or false ?????????? :P
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