Cold wave and electric heating: EDF kneeling?

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by Targol » 06/01/09, 23:34

Christophe wrote:Ah so much for me ... Super EPR that has already 2 years late on the planing is what you think?
Yes Yes. The same one who exploded his budget by more than 25% if I remember correctly.

Christophe wrote:EdF ingested 2000 years have apparently no longer the level of those of the 70 years ...
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This is unfortunately not the case only for engineers.
Isn't the very concept of technique replacing human effort with cheap energy?
We replace the brains of engineers with computers, the know-how of craftsmen with machine tools.
Plasterer training, for example, has disappeared in favor of "drywall" training.
On the other hand, they still did not succeed in replacing the idiot who buys, in the end, by a machine.

Christophe wrote:For the wishes: similarly dear targoule! We have a subject here: https://www.econologie.com/forums/bonne-anne ... t6800.html
I fixed my mistake, oh, great master

Christophe wrote: I have my slap to wish the hypocritical: happiness (= consumption), success (= consumption) and prosperity (in consumption) ...

It is up to you to wish contacts, love, exchange, sharing, ... and I forget.
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by RIAZ » 07/01/09, 10:16

91.000 MW last night ....
We exploded the record!

Especially remember to turn off the toilet light when leaving ....

Good people sleep in peace. That's it, go to bed and put on three blankets and above all turn off the light ...

91.000 MW, 45.000 beautiful wind turbines that would all turn the body all the way (one every 3 km, roughly).
91.000 MW, how many hectares of solar panels? Heck, it was dark!
91.000 Mw, 600 million cyclists, "trained" as said Michel KIEFER. Damn it will have to bring Chinese!
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by Remundo » 07/01/09, 14:09

This is what happens when you choose to heat with electricity ...

Cogeneration with a little wood or fuel in each hut and no more problems ... neither heating nor electricity.

But it would pay less to EDF, of course, which despite its billions, is not fucked up to send the 90 GW of electricity when it needs a little more than usual ... :?
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by Did67 » 07/01/09, 14:24

Remundo wrote:This is what happens when you choose to heat with electricity ...

Cogeneration with a little wood or fuel in each hut and no more problems ... neither heating nor electricity.
...:?


Denounce, denounce. And let's not forget to promote the alternatives ... When I see how many people are fascinated by PAC and convinced to do good for the environment in addition ...

What can we do, if not inform?

For my part, I spend time on this forum to ensure that those who have opted for pellet boilers do not remain disappointed due to incorrect settings / settings ...

Okay, cogeneration from fuel, I wouldn't promote it. I recognize however that it is much better than heating with fuel!
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by RIAZ » 07/01/09, 14:35

Did67 wrote:Okay, cogeneration from fuel, I wouldn't promote it. I recognize however that it is much better than heating with fuel!


You have SUNMACHINE in your corner (seen from Cholet!). Are you interested in what they were starting to offer?
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by Remundo » 07/01/09, 15:58

Personally, I do not know the performance of the Stirling Sun Machine.

But that's the kind of thing you should use, ideally with wood.

For heating, I have even better (in principle, but it could be developed: it is physically quite possible ...):
: Idea:the PAC / Cogen Stirling coupling. : Idea:

But it's so much better to split the atom to which better better ... :?

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by Did67 » 07/01/09, 17:59

RIAZ wrote:
Did67 wrote:Okay, cogeneration from fuel, I wouldn't promote it. I recognize however that it is much better than heating with fuel!


You have SUNMACHINE in your corner (seen from Cholet!). Are you interested in what they were starting to offer?


My remark went in the direction: fuel = fossil energy, therefore limited in time + global warming ...

Even if with cogeneration you can ideally recover almost 100%, this remains 100% of fossil energy and global warming. So basta ... Sunmachine or schmourtzmatic, or x, inventor of genius with geniallissime hack - I don't care ...

But hey, I drive in the car, so I close it a little. Quite simply, I said: I would not promote ... It is a makeshift, not a solution, from my point of view.

I was not talking about Stirling au bois. Only fuel.
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by Remundo » 07/01/09, 18:18

Hi Did,

Fuel oil is practical, but there is fossil fuel and biofuel. You know the biomass thermolysis and the friends Fischer and Tropsch :?:
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by RIAZ » 08/01/09, 18:45

I saw yesterday's news ...
I heard today the same speech in the mouth of the same (sinister) individual and nonetheless boss of EDF, in the 13 p.m. newspaper on France Inter, with the added bonus of a (recorded) question from a representative of GREENPEACE precisely focused on encouraging electric heating.

Well, sir, he knitted an answer on the enormous chance that nuclear France had in this period when Russian gas is as reliable as Soviet Santa Claus, and he gargled on the mobilization of the maximum of resources production, etc etc ...
And a third of French people who heat electric under its vigorous impulse? Pfuittt, get out!
And the reason why Germany which undergoes the same climatic rigors has enough current to resell it to nuclear France ..... Heck, not even thought to ask!

Why ask questions when the answers fall harmoniously? EDF will do its duty, the investments in the production will go back to the bottom (under the impetus of President Sarkozy, it eats no bread to quote the Phoenix of Neuilly, you never know), to meet the needs of the French who do not do not stop buying computers and televisions, which in addition, consume when we do not use them !!!

It's his right to tell salads, but the reporter let him pass and even thanked him warmly for spending time on the radio at a time when he must have a lot of things to do ... not done its duty.

And they would like to be paraded when they are jostled by the cops ...

Ah good people!
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