Ossetia: the new Chechnya of Caspian gas?

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by Christophe » 18/08/08, 20:21

I admit I lay down to listen a little longer to the beautiful music: adagio for strings ...
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by martien007 » 18/08/08, 23:05

Russian missile launch pads in Ossetia

In addition, the capital of Georgia, Tbilisi, would be within range of Russian fire, Moscow having deployed several launch pads of SS-21 tactical missiles in South Ossetia, reported Sunday evening (August 17th) the American daily newspaper The New York. Times on its website

GOOD it's clear, the Russians have taken a step ahead of the US who must install missile ramps in Poland. They also signed the final agreement this week (to be checked) because the Poles are increasingly worried.

A COLD, 21st century war is brewing with an arms race. In the region, it will be very hot between Russian missiles in Ossetia, Iranian missiles aimed at Israel, missiles in Poland aimed at Moscow.

You just have to press the button.

Who starts ?? : Evil:
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by gegyx » 18/08/08, 23:21

The good aliens will step in to prevent the massacre. (At least the real Martians ...)

Why worry? A few human specimens have already been collected to sow other lands.
We are a race of pioneers, I tell you!

What bothers me is that what will come out on earth are the powerful today, the bad guys who screwed up shit ...

Do you see Sarko and Carla in an underground bunker, for 10 years, to multiply and repopulate the earth?
I'd rather die than live this!
Thus, they will only fuck their fellows.
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by martien007 » 18/08/08, 23:30

In the latest news from JT FR3: "the Russians are playing on the nerves of the Georgians, the EU and the USA by not withdrawing from Georgia".

They know very well that no one will dare to hit the Russians, during this time they can set up their missile bases in South Ossetia and also leave traces behind them in Georgia (anti-personnel mines for example).
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by Christophe » 19/08/08, 09:26

It was sewn with white thread:

Georgia: "Russian peacekeepers" will stay in South Ossetia, says Russian official

Russia's permanent representative to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, also reaffirms that Russian troops have started to withdraw from Georgia, which Tbilisi still denies.
An extraordinary NATO meeting, convened at Washington's request and devoted to the Russo-Georgian crisis, opens in Brussels.
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice believes that Russia is playing "a very dangerous game" with the United States.


http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/actualit ... etie_.html

Putin's notion of Russian Peacekeeper is well worth that of Bush with his "preventive" war ... : Cheesy: :frown: : Evil:

Concerning the missiles in Ossetia, they have "only" a range of 120 or 185km cf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTR-21_Tochka

They are not intercontinental rocket missiles so ...
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by martien007 » 19/08/08, 11:28

Concerning the missiles in Ossetia, they have "only" a range of 120 or 185km cf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTR-21_Tochka

They are not intercontinental rocket missiles so ...

They just want to intimidate Georgia by pointing at Tbilisi.

Other info this morning:

http://actu.orange.fr/articles/a-la-une ... trait.html

Accusing the Russian army of undermining bridges in the west and center of the country and of having blown up the barracks at the Senaki military base (west), Georgian diplomacy declares "that by these actions, along with the persistent delay of the withdrawal of its troops from Georgia "the Russians" seriously violate the conditions of the peace agreement ".

Russian troops did not appear to be preparing for their departure, and AFP journalists noted that they were camping in their positions or advancing into Georgian territory.

The United States has not observed a significant withdrawal of Russian forces from Georgia, contrary to commitments made by Moscow, according to a US defense official.

"We are continuing to monitor the situation and it is probably a bit early, but we have not seen any significant Russian withdrawals from Georgia today," he said on Monday on condition of anonymity.

The Russians would mine bridges; they are forcing "roadblocks" from Georgian police forces (I saw the report yesterday where a Russian tank pushes Georgian police 4X4s put across the road near Tbilisi and no Georgians react - there was nobody in the cars? -). Impressive, it recalls 1968, the invasion of Prague.
They think they are at home, whereas Georgia is an independent country; The Georgian president made a mistake by attacking South Ossetia, it gave the Russians a pretext to invade Georgia.

..... unless Georgia did it on purpose to provoke an international reaction. The president is very pro-US, he studied at an American University.
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by gegyx » 24/08/08, 15:39

Resent the forces of peace who are slow to invade the rest of Georgia! ...
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In a previous post I had announced that Azerbaijan could no longer raise its oil, following the burnt pipe line.
The blown-up railway bridge prevented transport by rail, leaving transit through a Russian port as the only alternative.
But the railroad connection was re-established very quickly.

And now the train carrying the hydrocarbons has just jumped on a mine ...

http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/depeches ... olier.html
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by Philippe Schutt » 24/08/08, 20:54

Well, I only remember one thing from this case:

Georgian President is a con : Cheesy:

Now, there is more to let slip its 2 secessionist provinces. Free determination of peoples, it's called.

it reminds me that Saddam also attacked Iran with the blessing of the US and without deriving any benefit. here, a question: has an ally of the United States already benefited from operations carried out under their encouragement?

And, we can criticize the Russians, but here I approve of their action. I also find it normal that they stay put as much as possible, and that they do not abandon their friends in the hands of the pro-US UN.
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by Flytox » 24/08/08, 21:22

Hello Philippe Schutt

Between Carybd and Sylla my heart swings ... Do you think there is one to redeem the other? In any case, it is a question of appropriating the wealth of others and we will not ask the natives by whom they prefer to be b ..... mowed (to be polite). :frown:
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by gegyx » 24/08/08, 21:52

Agree with you, but let's not forget that in these 2 provinces, there are also Georgians, who will get hot buttocks (a bit like the Tibetans in Tibet ..)

That a peace force, mandated by the UN (more bullshit), is a coalition, and not just the most powerful border country, and squinting at it. There were also Georgians, but they are no longer there; so the UN mandate is now distorted, and will result in an annexation, or a boudistan.

That a peace force, mandated by the UN, does not distribute passports of its nationality, to the inhabitants it sorts.

It is as if in Lebanon, the French who keep the peace (or rather who stamp and count the points) were distributing French passports to all Maronites (Christians).
Leaves a little later, to declare that these Lebanese territories belong to them because it is the wish of the Maronites to be protected by a just force which listens to them and defends them from the nasty extremists ...

If we withdraw, we do not continue to plague the country's infrastructure with mines or bombardments of economic sites. (Just like Israel did, destroying Lebanon's infrastructure, even in the north of the country ...)

When you are a peace force, you do not encourage armed militias, to carry out ethnic cleansing, to loot, rape, kill other citizens.
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