2013, the end of oil

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 12/02/08, 11:03

The docu fiction film can be viewed in 3 parts on these 3 pages:

https://www.econologie.com/docu-fiction- ... -3662.html
https://www.econologie.com/docu-fiction- ... -3663.html
https://www.econologie.com/docu-fiction- ... -3664.html

Remundo · by **Remundo** » 12/02/08, 11:51

This film is not bad, I didn't know ...

The strings are a little big at times, but that gives a good little panorama of the after peak-oil ...

It's not for 2013 ... Me, I see the thing around 2040 ... But it all depends on a lot of things.

@+

the middle · by **the middle** » 30/04/11, 07:32

Hello,
Here's a clue that speaks ...
http://www.lepetitjournal.com/homepage/ ... power.html

Total wants to get into the renewable energy sector. The French oil group has announced a friendly takeover bid for Sunpower, a manufacturer of solar panels. Total wants to buy 60% of the capital of the American firm to create a "world leader in solar energy", announced the two groups. The French company will spend the sum of 1,38 billion dollars to carry out the operation. An amount that values Sunpower's stock by more than 30% compared to its current market value. The French offered 23,25 dollars per share while the title of the American is currently trading at 16,12 dollars.
JB (www.lepetitjournal.com) Friday April 28, 2011

(as a reminder, the post title is "" the end of oil ")

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 30/04/11, 07:59

Good to revive this subject because we are getting closer to 2013 : Lol:

Oil companies have "always" bought solar companies ....

Total has had a solar pump business for many years and I believe they have been manufacturing PV for a long time.
SolarShell exists I think for 20 years ...
Other tankers also have PV.

Etc., etc...

Research will quickly confirm this.

Now they may not be as big as SunPower so what does this buyout mean? Quite simply, like all redemptions: that there is money to be made.

This in 2 ways:

a) Directly on an emerging or very innovative market
b) Indirectly: the repurchase is often made to have the hand put on a competitor or a competing technology and to control a market which would make him wrong ... although the solar PV is a competitor only indirect of the oil ... whatever the arrived electric cars currently making solar electricity a competitor to fuel

I always wondered why the oil companies did not invest in thermal solar (to my knowledge) ...

ps: a message from looping yesterday evening which goes in this direction (hypothesis b)): https://www.econologie.com/forums/post201262.html#201262

the middle · by **the middle** » 30/04/11, 08:29

I always wondered why the oil companies did not invest in thermal solar (to my knowledge) ...

Same for me...

Obamot · by **Obamot** » 30/04/11, 10:22

Many reasons:
- A product can be stored, it therefore guarantees the indigenous supply even in the event of a temporary shortage internationally (... time to find a solution ...) Ditto for uranium, strategic stock up to ten years...
- A product is easily subject to stock market speculation ... So if we stock it it's bingo, because we bought it at a certain price and we sell it more expensive than we bought it ...
- it is also much easier to make customers captive on a product than on a place of production (thermal solar sites, will bore them royally ...)
- not being directly dependent on energy, gives all the time to establish its domination, by the effect of large "volumes" on consumption and pressure on prices ...
- by regulating the price by the stock market, the markets can "plunder" fossil fuels (etc) without paying the right price ... but resell them very expensive at the other end of the chain (ie the singular increase in price per barrel, while peak oil is clearly not yet reached ... but we are playing on scarcity ... although it is starting to be felt ...)

All these “strategies” which need to be reviewed with solar thermal energy (apart from the storage of solar thermal energy at medium depth => 150 / 300m)
Finally, I don't know if it has already been said in this thread, but the "peak oil" will last forever, to make the most of the "scarcity" and because we are not told everything about it. "reserves" or what types of reserves we are talking about ...

sen-no-sen · by **sen-no-sen** » 30/04/11, 11:48

Obamot wrote:Finally, I don't know if it has already been said in this thread, but the "peak oil" will last forever, to make the most of the "scarcity" and because we are not told everything about it. "reserves" or what types of reserves we are talking about ...

Indeed, if we use "unconventional oils", it can last a long time, but at what price? (for the environment).

Janic · by **Janic** » 30/04/11, 12:49

Oil companies have "always" bought solar companies ....

The biggest polluters were also the first to invest in pollution control (winning on both counts at the same time). Investing in renewable energy (which pays off) means keeping the monopoly on energy distribution.

sen-no-sen · by **sen-no-sen** » 30/04/11, 13:06

Janic wrote:
Oil companies have "always" bought solar companies ....
The biggest polluters were also the first to invest in pollution control (winning on both counts at the same time). Investing in renewable energy (which pays off) means keeping the monopoly on energy distribution.

Absolutely, "Greenwashing" has become THE strategy for market domination, erasing all potential criticism from the enemy ... who suddenly can even rally to the cause!
It is the application of The Art of War...

I can imagine solar plants used to extract unconventional oil! : Lol:

the middle · by **the middle** » 30/04/11, 14:12

Finally, I do not know if it has already been said in this thread, but the "peak oil" will last forever, to make the most of the "rarity" and because we are not told everything about "reserves" or what types of reserves we are talking about ...

When oil is too expensive to transport, it will be preferred for other applications .. (it was my boss who told me)

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