Linky meter: Operating and user manual?

[Gaston]

In Belgium, the whole box is sealed.

Logically, there is no breaker in it (if you have to change the fillings every time the circuit breaker jumps )

[izentrop]

Hello,
A main circuit breaker set to 30 A will jump for 6900 W resistive (electric heating) and if we have a lot of motors running with an average phi COS of 0.7, it will jump for 230 x 30 x 0.7 = 4830 W

It is possible with a disk meter as with the linky to measure power in watt.
My disc meter shows 4 Wh / turn and the 1 Wh / flash linky of the led.
Just count the pulses or turns, together with the seconds elapsed and make a rule of three

Apart from the main circuit breaker, the linky has a "breaker" ... beware of bad payers, the supplier now has an additional leverage http://www.enedis.fr/sites/default/file ... _03_01.pdf

[Gaston]

A main circuit breaker set to 30 A will jump for 6900 W resistive (electric heating) and if we have a lot of motors running with an average phi COS of 0.7, it will jump for 230 x 30 x 0.7 = 4830 W

Exact.

But EDF took a lot of margin between the billed subscription and the actual consumable power.

For an 6kVA subscription, the circuit breaker is set to 30A (already 15% of margin) and moreover the circuit breaker set to 30A does not jump to less than 33 or even 35A (still 15%). In total, with an 6kVA subscription, we could consume 7,5 to 8kW in resistive.
I personally repeatedly exceeded the 4kW for several hours with an 3kVA subscription (but it jumped immediately to 4,5kW).

By coupling the measurement (the meter) and the break (the circuit breaker) into a single device (the Linky), the system is much more precise.
With an 6kVA subscription, you can not exceed the 6,5 kW.

[Christophe]

In Belgium, the whole box is sealed.

Logically, there is no breaker in it (if you have to change the fillings every time the circuit breaker jumps )

If but the lever is accessible on the front, it is a TECO and it happens to jump during heavy thunderstorms (so I presume it has a surge safety also or an integrated differential?)

It is a three-phase 230V (the standard in Belgium for the particulars: 127V peak, 230V between 2 phases and no neutral regime ... so it stings on all the wires ^^), my subscription is 50A it seems to me ... so I logically entitled to 127 * root (3) * 50 = 11 kW ...

On the Teco it is indicated 20 / 40 I presume it cuts to either 20A or 40A ...

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[Petrus]

It is possible with a disk meter as with the linky to measure power in watt.
My disc meter shows 4 Wh / turn and the 1 Wh / flash linky of the led.
Just count the pulses or turns, together with the seconds elapsed and make a rule of three

Ok, so the linky counts in W (for now) and the display of the power in VA is only used to size its subscription. To monitor its consumption it will buy the remote display. I would have preferred to have my instant conso W, to size the subscription the maximum apparent power measured is sufficient.
I love the logic of enedis: you want to monitor your conso to save money, that's good, but pay first!

Another question: on a three-phase installation, does the linky trip only on exceeding the total power on the three phases, or on exceeding the power / 3 on a phase?

[izentrop]

By coupling the measurement (the meter) and the break (the circuit breaker) into a single device (the Linky), the system is much more precise.
With an 6kVA subscription, you can not exceed the 6,5 kW.

As the "breaker" is set to the connection power, if what you say is correct if it is exceeded, it is the breaker that cuts before the general circuit breaker. Do you have reliable sources?
I have a doubt, because there is so much reluctance of the public that I can not believe that the suppliers adds.

Ok, so the linky counts in W (for now)
To monitor its consumption it will buy the remote display. I would have preferred to have my instant conso W, to size the subscription the maximum apparent power measured is sufficient.

Watt.hour is an energy meter.

It is not included in the subscription to consult its load curve? https://espace-client-particuliers.ened ... #aquoisert
For the three-phase question, see paragraph 6 of the document I have already given.

he sometimes jumps during heavy thunderstorms (so I assume he has surge safety too or an integrated differential?)

Differential 500 mA in principle.

[moinsdewatt]

(France) Enedis has installed 8 million Linky meters in two years

By Xavier Boivinet released the 15 / 12 / 2017

With nearly 8 million Linky communicating meters installed, Enedis is continuing the replacement, sometimes difficult, 35 million electric meters that must end in 2021. The goal ? To make possible the management of an increasingly complex electricity grid with the increase of scattered renewable energy sources and electric vehicles. The data collected ensures the necessary balance between production and consumption.


Since December 2015, almost eight million Linky meters have been deployed throughout France. "We are following exactly the path that was planned," says Bernard Lassus, director of the Linky program at the electricity distributor Enedis, at a meeting organized on December 13 to take stock after two years of deployment. By December 2018, 16 million counters should be installed. Final goal: 35 million by 2021.

Adapt to the terrain

Despite Enedis' experience in replacing meters, Bernard Lassus admits having been confronted with a different ground reality for the deployment of Linky. "We have about a million counters a year before 2015," he says. It's a common activity. But from December 2015, we had to adapt. Especially in terms of information. Fire departures, intrusive data collection, long-term non-evolving system and vulnerable to cybersecurity attacks, ... Linky is still, even today, accused of many evils. This resistance, however, appears only in a minority of municipalities: "In the majority of places, nothing happens," even says the director of the program. Besides, the man dismisses critics with the back of the hand. The number of fires has by no means increased since the deployment of smart meters. He adds that the data do not allow to know the detail of the consumption inside the housing and that Edenied respects all the recommendations of the National Commission of the information and liberties (CNIL). Finally, he reminds that the meter is composed of two parts: a metrology part that counts, and a software part, that can be changed over time.

Model change

Although it is sometimes difficult to accept, the smart meter is nevertheless considered by Enedis as a key link to the large scale deployment of renewable energies. "The integration of sources of production and consumption a little everywhere completely change the way of driving, says Bernard Lassus. We have to do it locally, so it requires extremely fine steering. The data provided by Linky makes it possible to know what is produced in one place and consumed in another to constantly adjust the balance between production and consumption.

In the old centralized power generation model, power went down from the power plant to the end customer through the medium voltage and low voltage networks. This model now integrates more and more intermittent renewable sources of energy distributed throughout the territory, and means of storage. The network is becoming more complex. In addition, Bernard Lassus points to the burden of increasing the number of electric vehicles: "If you put them to charge at the same time, the network can collapse. "

If the piloting is not done yet on a large scale, Bernard Lassus is confident: "We will come there little by little. Our regional pilot centers are starting to learn how to use Linky's data. "Issy-les-Moulineaux, Nice, Lyon, ... The smart networks begin according to him to prove their effectiveness.

https://www.industrie-techno.com/enedis ... -ans.51922

[Gaston]

On the Teco it is indicated 20 / 40 I presume it cuts to either 20A or 40A ...

It is adjustable from 20 to 40A.
The adjustment is made by the position of the barrette (with 3 screw) below the handle.
The corresponding amperage is engraved on the hood.
According to your picture, yours is set to 25A.

Another question: on a three-phase installation, does the linky trip only on exceeding the total power on the three phases, or on exceeding the power / 3 on a phase?

Like the previous ones, when you exceed the amperage subscribed to one of the phases (in any case, the cables are not sized to support all the power on a single phase).

[Leo Maximus]

Hello izentrop,

... A main circuit breaker set to 30 A will jump for 6900 W resistive (electric heating) and if we have a lot of motors running with an average phi COS of 0.7, it will jump for 230 x 30 x 0.7 = 4830 W

I will soon have the Linky. I currently have a 6 kVA "blue" subscription and a 30A thermal circuit breaker.

I use a 140 welding machine amp (max 170 amperes). I have never had any problem of disjunction but I wonder if I will have to change the subscription with Linky because the cos phi is from 0,5.

I did not find a satisfactory answer on the forums specialized. Opinions are conflicting and the guys have fancy welding machines, TIG, MIG, and the three-phase while I have a mundane coated electrode machine.

Goods.

[Christophe]

On the Teco it is indicated 20 / 40 I presume it cuts to either 20A or 40A ...

It is adjustable from 20 to 40A.
The adjustment is made by the position of the barrette (with 3 screw) below the handle.
The corresponding amperage is engraved on the hood.
According to your picture, yours is set to 25A.

Ah thank you for these explanations! Are you sure about 25 A? It could not be 35 A?

So I actually got 25 * root (3) * 127 = 5.5 kW?

5500W, I think I go over them from time to time ... just my MIG soldering machine is 3.7 kW ... it does not leave much for the rest of the house ...

Well, the best thing is that I make a test how much it triggers