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by PITMIX » 10/01/06, 10:30

Thank you jean
It is not that I am competent in isolating but I have my classes of air conditioning under the eyes. I have charts on the insulation it was used to calculate the thermal balance of building to know the power of heating or cold for the summer or winter. And those according to the composition of the walls. Another calculus was super intersted was to determine the dew point in the wall. So we came to know if there could be condensation on a wall depending on the composition of it.
Today I will not be able to do it.
On the other hand, I can say thanks to my abacus that the plywood is almost identical to the thermo insulation board 0,15w / m ° C.
And cork with 0,10w / m ° C is very insulating.
The glass itself is not so bad as it has a thermal conductivity of 1,70w / m ° C identical to solid concrete. Then in a house like yours if you have big glazed windows it's very good to heat the house with solar radiation when the weather is nice and cold outside. When the sun is hiding you close the thick curtains you put in front to preserve the heat. Ditto if it is in summer you close the wooden shutters to prevent the heat from entering. And if in addition you have a Canadian well is the free autoregulated air conditioning. 8) : Wink:
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by gerald » 10/01/06, 11:07

I propose that this discussion on kits be moved in order not to interfere with the issue of wooden constructions.

I feel targeted at red balls so I will answer. First of all, let me be clear that I refuse to enter any squabble. My only concern is to leave a viable land for our children. It seems to me that we all have the same goal, so it would be more useful to work together than to compete.
I am not a professional mechanic but I have already "pantonisé" some vehicles with results ranging from 10 to 35% economy. Every time we have to break our heads to reinvent the system according to the vehicle, the materials we have at hand, the time we have ...
I think this process is a big step forward, that it is relatively reliable if we respect the different data on materials, temperature and depression. I deeply regret that none of you who claim to be more advanced than a handyman like me had the guts to put a kit on the market.
It is a fact that I find unacceptable, I think we have no right to do nothing when we know the ecological impact that could have the generalization of this process.
Someone had to jump into the water to start the request. You say so well that it is through buisness that ecology will win.
I did it. There is a demand. There are many people more qualified and interested than me ... Keep going!
My kit is simply composed - / the same reactor that the Spad has proven, - / the same bubbler as my cocottes minutes with a change of shape and scale - / and different parts, hoses ...
I simply wish to facilitate the implementation of this system for everyone.
I guarantee you that with the price I ask and depending on the job, there is nothing to get rich.
Christophe, I do not approve of your attitude of breaking the few commercial initiatives that exist.
I do not approve of the debates which concur in giving reason to the anteriority
I do not approve of the attitude that concedes that until everything is explained, proven, analyzed ... nothing can be marketed. I find this attitude irresponsible in the extreme emergency situation in which we find ourselves.

Let's work together with our means and methods
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by claude07 » 10/01/06, 11:14

all work merits salary. without pay there would be nothing.
it's like advertising on the forum that allows him to live!
so.....
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by jean63 » 10/01/06, 11:59

A Lau =>
there is a controversy over sèrieuse wood autoclaved; we found a lot in the squares, the stakes of some fences, in the course of nursery: This wood is treated with arsenic, hello children who lick it and for the environment!
Rockwool as glass wool are doomed to be prohibited, it is a beautiful shit that is still used.
I regret having brought home the glass wool in the attic Despite the protective veil; over the years the ceiling battens will diverge and miss this carcinogenic dust.
For rock wool is worse because most end with a bonus: we had strongly recommended me to put in the walls because the latter has the unfortunate tendency to absorb moisture ..
The solutions is hemp, sheep's wool or lavender straw that which we know not to do with us.

Yes I agree; at the time we did not know these insulators and + they are very expensive.
For wood treated in an autoclave, I do not worry because there is nothing apparent that has been treated in an autoclave; the rock wool is well trapped inside by a sheet of polyane, more I scitché les les so that nothing can diffuse inside.
I do not have a VMC that could carry particles inside ..... I thought about it all.The cork, I put between my ceiling RDCh and the 1er, 5cms panels ep, sandwiched between raw wood ceiling and parquet floating above for the sound but it's not great. When varnish is ARTILIN (bio + + difficult to find).
I avoided chemistry whenever I could.
PS: how do you put the excerpt of the sender message in bluish background? thank you.

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by jean63 » 10/01/06, 12:23

Hello,
Yes my house is bioclimatic (passive solar).
South side, I have a veranda + large windows (tree wood) sliding + double insulated glass (greenhouse effect guaranteed); it can go up to + 50 ° in the veranda if you are not careful.
North side, there is the garage and above the attic which serve as thermal buffer.
In summary it is a bioclimatic house.
The only (one of ...) disadvantage is that it is not protected from the cold winds of the North because on a flat ground: the ideal is semi-buried on a sloping ground oriented South South-west ...... but we can not have everything and please everyone. A +.
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by lau » 10/01/06, 14:58

jean63 wrote:

okay. with all that exists today, to make the right choice you have to be damn informed!
5 cm of cork is huge!
For the shot of the semi-buried house, I would not be so positive because of the humidity, I am convinced that the living rooms should all be upstairs.
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claude07 wrote:all work merits salary. without pay there would be nothing.
it's like advertising on the forum that allows him to live!
so.....

The pub on the forum is not enough for the operation of the site, I will make a small donation of 20 € it's always that and with all that I learned it is the minimum! : Wink:

gerald wrote:
I feel targeted at red balls so I will answer. First of all, let me be clear that I refuse to enter any squabble. My only concern is to leave a viable land for our children. It seems to me that we all have the same goal, so it would be more useful to work together than to compete.

it's obvious, but the goal is not the only leitmotif "to our children" but
respect for life and the environment as a whole.

gerald wrote: I am not a professional mechanic but I have already "pantonisé" some vehicles with results ranging from 10 to 35% economy. Every time we have to break our heads to reinvent the system according to the vehicle, the materials we have at hand, the time we have ...
I find that this process is a great advance, that it is relatively reliable if we respect the different data on materials, temperature and vacuum. I deeply regret that none of you who claim to be more advanced than a handyman like me had the guts to put a kit on the market. It is a fact that I find unacceptable, I find that we have not the right to do nothing when you know the ecological impact that the generalization of this process could have.
Someone had to jump into the water to start the request. You say so well that it is through buisness that ecology will win.
I did it. There is a demand. There are many people more qualified and interested than me ... Keep going!

completely agree, you are not the only one to install ready-made kits. see my post on this https://www.econologie.com/forums/faire-deco ... t1300.html
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by gerald » 10/01/06, 15:11

I know that there are several Spad installers. By cons marketing level of car kits, I do not know anyone.
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by lau » 10/01/06, 15:19

Yes, it's true! each installation is a prototype according to the types of vehicles.
I got back in touch with a preparer for my pantone.
I will keep you posted on the forum.

PS: on the APTE site in the "Links" section, there is a link to econology and christophe is cited as a pioneer in the scientific study of the pantone process.
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by davio » 01/02/06, 19:11

For self-build wood visit http://www.kalliste.be

Their super simple-looking wood block construction method.
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by Former Oceano » 01/02/06, 19:24

Thanks for the link, I saw this on a TV show and I thought it was a good idea to build in eco-friendly material.

I just browsed the site and it's even more interesting by reading it. On the other hand, it is a fairly technical product and as there are many types of agglos and lintels depending on the structure that we build, we will have to think carefully before placing any order.
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