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by Polo » 10/10/06, 13:20

For the washing machine I saw a guy who built his washing machine..with a bike !! He does a bike and wash his clothes at the same time, if you want I can find you his site ...
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by Christine » 10/10/06, 14:58

Zac had also mentioned the subject here:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post24675.html#24675
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by I Citro » 10/10/06, 23:17

GREGNENE wrote:I have new ideas and made new choices to be autonomous.
For heating I will take a TULIKIVI mass cook that will serve me to cook (cook and oven), heat me in the winter and have my hot water :D

I also block for the washing machine big consumer of electricity


- A Tulikivi !! Is your name Rocfeller? : Lol:

- For the washing machine, it is the heating of the water which consumes. In countries where we are smarter than in France there are washing machines with 2 water arrivals (cold water AND hot water)! You can then connect your washing machine to a solar hot water tank : Cheesy: there are also kits (alfa mix) and PLANS to modify your own washing machine ...
Solar equipment distributors also offer the brand's excellent (Korean) air bubble washing machines DAEWOO. They were offered at carrefour a few years ago but without success. Their design and dimmensions (very small) did not correspond to the habits of French consumers.

These topics have already been discussed There
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by Cuicui » 11/10/06, 07:56

It's been 25 years that our washing machine (ordinary ordinary brand) is powered by hot water solar collectors. Just be there to turn off the hot water and open the cold water when rinsing.
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by GREGNENE » 11/10/06, 20:39

You say that the mass of tulikivi stove is very expensive :x
I do not know I have not received a quote yet
But that's the idea that pleases me. I was thinking of cooking in a refractory brick, but I do not think it has the same performance. I'm still looking for info : Idea:
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by I Citro » 11/10/06, 21:26

GREGNENE wrote:You say that the mass of tulikivi stove is very expensive :x
I do not know I have not received a quote yet


The soapstone of which a Tulikivi stove is made is not given, but above all, it is its transport which is expensive. the weight of a Tulikivi is in tons, right? Otherwise it is just decorative stove and not mass stoves.
The concept of the mass stove is more suited to old habitat and / or cold region. The goal is to accumulate and radiate a significant heat to offset the significant thermal inertia of old stone buildings.
An ecological construction will rather rely on controlled insulation AND very low inertia. This makes it possible to reach comfort conditions in a minimum of time with a minimum of energy.
For fifty years there have been solar air houses that accumulate heat in pebbles. A regulated ventilation system uses this stored heat as needed. The mass stove does not offer this flexibility. It continues to radiate during periods when you do not need the heat. It was however necessary to spend this energy to store it in soapstone ...
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by Targol » 12/10/06, 09:19

citro wrote:An ecological construction will rather rely on controlled insulation AND very low inertia. This makes it possible to reach comfort conditions in a minimum of time with a minimum of energy.


I must qualify these remarks, Citro: little thermal inertia is desirable in the case of premises occupied part-time, in this case, the time to "heat the walls", have never managed to achieve acceptable thermal comfort.
In the case of a house inhabited on a full-time basis, on the other hand, the thermal inertia associated with a good insulation (preferably outside) is desirable because it makes it possible to regulate the differences in temperatures between night and day, for example . It also allows to properly air the premises from time to time without having to warm up the entire house, the walls then resituating heat ...
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by I Citro » 12/10/06, 13:49

Targol wrote:I have to nuance these words, Citro

You did well.
Little thermal inertia is desirable in the case of premises occupied part-time, in which case, the time to "heat the walls", has never managed to reach an acceptable thermal comfort.

We agree...
In the case of a house inhabited on a full-time basis, on the other hand, thermal inertia combined with good insulation (preferably external) is desirable because it makes it possible to regulate temperature differences between night and day, for example . It also allows to properly air the premises from time to time without having to warm up the entire house, the walls then resituating heat ...

Ok for the external insulation is the ideal (removal of thermal bridges).
Good ventilation is permanent and controlled ventilation. The frames must be waterproof and the double flux ventilation ideally associated with a Canadian well recovers calories (in winter) or, (in summer) the internal freshness of the evacuated air.
A house without inertia, that will never exist. if the building materials have a low inertia (low does not mean zero) the contents of the house (linen, library, furniture, carpets ...) will increase the overall thermal inertia of the inhabited volume. 8)
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by PITMIX » 12/10/06, 21:10

Hello
Inertia is not necessarily bad.
When electric heating for example a heat pump operates at night in off-peak hours. At night the slab of the uninhabited room, for example offices, is heated, and during the day the heat is restored without operating the heat pump.
For the house it would be enough to do the same with a non-inertial floor but by heating the night water of a balloon. The day would be enough to switch the water to the heated floor through a motorized three-way valve.
I did the technical study of the first installation it works very well.
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by PITMIX » 26/11/06, 18:23

Hello
I just found on Ebay the ice machine group I was talking about in another subject that I can not find.
This group fridge that can be used to make a small ecological air conditioning.
The group does not look like the picture, but the design is convenient for the use that can be made.
The compressor is driven by an electric motor via a belt it is very easy to imagine to replace the electric motor with aero or hydrogenerator.
MAJA open group
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