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An interesting study on homes and timber frame
Alain G wrote:
The French study confirms what Canadians have developed to counter the climate and I am satisfied that they have copied the whole concept proving the quality of our buildings!
Not really this study is trying to enhance the low end French! For it to comply with the minimum required in 2 months namely the RT2012
Which seems to be the must at home.
Otherwise here we are passive MOB or BBC, fermacell, permeable wall, bio-sourced materials, double flow, climatic wells.
Knowing well Canada and Quebec (half of my family lives in Mont and Vancouvert) I have rather met glass wool, polytructs of all kinds, plastocs cladding, modes of heating antediluvients, open fireplaces Pulsed heating (to the point that the city of Montreal prohibits outdated wood stoves).
Yes, energy is not expensive at home! (but it pollutes)
Canada is still the largest producer of asbestos, and the second largest polluter of the OECD per capita, fortunately there are the states, calice cyboire!
Ps: Not to mention the M ..... bait!
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I do not know whether to laugh or cry (despite )
but try to heat, cool your house in a country where there is 5 winter months and that it descends ocasionellemt a-25 all electric for only 1950 $ hot water heating engine heating, DIY welding machine, garage ect ..
When the wood stove is just snobbish people who have a fireplace to see the beautiful flame, the others is a slow burning stove and the top you still have a lot to learn (the Swedes have been a long time 'they understood. )
For asbestos there are just two big places in the world where there are and you are a few late check marks the mines are closed.
Polluter per capita? it is very good that, Pollution to the square kilometer of territory, it is more appropriate like measure.
because if you go up to the Inuit of the great north the figure will traumatize you heating, transport, snowmobile, 4 wheels and transport by planes for medical care, electricity made by diesel generator, very long winter ..
Imagine a little in Quebec when the great north wind blows in winter that it crossed more than 1000km fir, as it must be poled in our villages .. When you compare Canada to France? France enters 3 once in Quebec so do not tell me about the pollution of domestic wood heating, just the 150 forest fires annually, the wood of domestic heating, it is a drop in this imensity. (it's simple wood sells sandstone sandstone escapes the tax, while oil, natural gas electricity you do not escape taxes and in large cities wood storage is a problem) of any way much more economical, simpler and less dirty to heat electric, 200 Amperes under 230volts the minimum according to the code of the building by house that is enough even for very cold ..
I go occasionally to France, notament in Lorraine and Vosge and I can tell you that if you had winters like in Quebec do not even think about heating all electric .. wood would take a garage full of wood, I saw fireplaces in the houses of Lorraine, but never of slow burning stove.
Andre
The forest starts at 60 km from home and it takes 7 hours of flight with a small plane to get to the end ..
you can breathe hard it smells of fir
phil12 wrote:outdated wood stoves).
Yes, energy is not expensive at home! (but it pollutes)
Canada is still the largest producer of asbestos, and the second largest polluter of the OECD per capita, fortunately there are the states, calice cyboire!
I do not know whether to laugh or cry (despite )
but try to heat, cool your house in a country where there is 5 winter months and that it descends ocasionellemt a-25 all electric for only 1950 $ hot water heating engine heating, DIY welding machine, garage ect ..
When the wood stove is just snobbish people who have a fireplace to see the beautiful flame, the others is a slow burning stove and the top you still have a lot to learn (the Swedes have been a long time 'they understood. )
For asbestos there are just two big places in the world where there are and you are a few late check marks the mines are closed.
Polluter per capita? it is very good that, Pollution to the square kilometer of territory, it is more appropriate like measure.
because if you go up to the Inuit of the great north the figure will traumatize you heating, transport, snowmobile, 4 wheels and transport by planes for medical care, electricity made by diesel generator, very long winter ..
Imagine a little in Quebec when the great north wind blows in winter that it crossed more than 1000km fir, as it must be poled in our villages .. When you compare Canada to France? France enters 3 once in Quebec so do not tell me about the pollution of domestic wood heating, just the 150 forest fires annually, the wood of domestic heating, it is a drop in this imensity. (it's simple wood sells sandstone sandstone escapes the tax, while oil, natural gas electricity you do not escape taxes and in large cities wood storage is a problem) of any way much more economical, simpler and less dirty to heat electric, 200 Amperes under 230volts the minimum according to the code of the building by house that is enough even for very cold ..
I go occasionally to France, notament in Lorraine and Vosge and I can tell you that if you had winters like in Quebec do not even think about heating all electric .. wood would take a garage full of wood, I saw fireplaces in the houses of Lorraine, but never of slow burning stove.
Andre
The forest starts at 60 km from home and it takes 7 hours of flight with a small plane to get to the end ..
you can breathe hard it smells of fir
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Bein says-so your picture is not very "mountainous"!
Indeed, Canada is rather flat to valonne (except the west coast) to see your picture.
Here with the chain of the Alps and what follows there are mountains as far as the eye can see ... France, Switzerland, Italy, then Austria. Several hours by plane, since in winter it is "white" as far as Moscow and Siberia ... Yes white everywhere! From Italy to the far north! And beyond Tibet, to China!
We even call it the sea of ice. There are ski competitions everywhere here, you forgot?
And the negative temperatures, we know ... Up to -40 ° C according to the corners:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Br%C3%A9vine
France is located only at the end of this zone, at its extreme west. But the rest is much colder than you think ...
So no, the Canadians are very nice, but you do not have the monopoly of winter and cold too bad, we would have left it to you! Not even the construction of chalets! Moreover a chalet, the lighter it is, the more it will insulate against the cold, but the worse it will be in terms of thermal insulation! I'm not going to repeat the "Law of Mass" course for you
Indeed, Canada is rather flat to valonne (except the west coast) to see your picture.
Here with the chain of the Alps and what follows there are mountains as far as the eye can see ... France, Switzerland, Italy, then Austria. Several hours by plane, since in winter it is "white" as far as Moscow and Siberia ... Yes white everywhere! From Italy to the far north! And beyond Tibet, to China!
We even call it the sea of ice. There are ski competitions everywhere here, you forgot?
And the negative temperatures, we know ... Up to -40 ° C according to the corners:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Br%C3%A9vine
France is located only at the end of this zone, at its extreme west. But the rest is much colder than you think ...
So no, the Canadians are very nice, but you do not have the monopoly of winter and cold too bad, we would have left it to you! Not even the construction of chalets! Moreover a chalet, the lighter it is, the more it will insulate against the cold, but the worse it will be in terms of thermal insulation! I'm not going to repeat the "Law of Mass" course for you
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Hello
I wonder why the A380 Air Bus and come to do its cold tests north of Quebec? if you have such low temperatures at home.
He has just what I see at the new TV5 he falls 30cm of snow on Paris he closes the schools the transport all is paralyzed, In Montreal he falls a meter of snow all works, the roads are open and everyone goes to his work, 3 days after all the snow is picked up on the streets and sidewalks, loaded in camoins is store in site.
the monople of the winter we do not hold, but the expertise of the cold and the snow one améloiréé with the years ..
Andre
Obamot wrote:So no, the Canadians are very nice, but you do not have the monopoly of winter and cold
I wonder why the A380 Air Bus and come to do its cold tests north of Quebec? if you have such low temperatures at home.
He has just what I see at the new TV5 he falls 30cm of snow on Paris he closes the schools the transport all is paralyzed, In Montreal he falls a meter of snow all works, the roads are open and everyone goes to his work, 3 days after all the snow is picked up on the streets and sidewalks, loaded in camoins is store in site.
the monople of the winter we do not hold, but the expertise of the cold and the snow one améloiréé with the years ..
Andre
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Lack of luck, the A380 came to test at Cointrin airport! I was there.
See the height of the snowdrifts in front of the plane ...:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q666tHPMo0
Yet the rest of the track is clear: we also work there! AHAHAHAAH
Technical stop, the A380 does not arise regularly. But come to our house is hot:
Source: ...>
And then tsss ... Paris is not the sea of ice like here (I tease our Canadian friends)
Of course, on the whole, it's colder at home ...
Whatever .... come and spend the winter on Lake Geneva (Geneva-Cointrin) we are waiting for you:
Video: http://flejou.perso.sfr.fr/glace.htm
See the height of the snowdrifts in front of the plane ...:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q666tHPMo0
Yet the rest of the track is clear: we also work there! AHAHAHAAH
Technical stop, the A380 does not arise regularly. But come to our house is hot:
Source: ...>
And then tsss ... Paris is not the sea of ice like here (I tease our Canadian friends)
Of course, on the whole, it's colder at home ...
Whatever .... come and spend the winter on Lake Geneva (Geneva-Cointrin) we are waiting for you:
Video: http://flejou.perso.sfr.fr/glace.htm
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Hello cousin Andre,
Asbestos mines closed, yes but just a few weeks ago, before the change of government, Canadian asbestos was clean, now a few days later it is dangerous like in Europe, while Canadians shouted at conspiracy and protectionism, good faith when you hold us!
Yes the statistics per capita is more revealing, it is not because we have a huge territory that we must allow everything, it's like for the oceans they are vast everyone puts his shit on see the result.
So your bituminous oils are my children who will sniffer!
Explain me since you are so advanced some small points
1. Canada's relinquishment of the Kyoto targets for the 2012 year and their postponement to 2050! ;
2. the cancellation of the 10 $ billion budget for Canada's plan to fight climate change;
3. the extension of the tax break granted to developers of the bituminous industry;
4. the abolition of the Credit for Wind Power Encouragement in the "Federal Green Plan";
5. The refusal to validate Quebec's "green plan" (including the transfer of $ 328 $), while at the same time releasing significant funds to support Ontario in its "smog reduction program". It is true that Quebec's green plan is focused on renewable energies and that Ontario (without any integrated green plan) is always more and more thirsty for Alberta oil!
6. Nothing to do but still the seal hunt.
Asbestos mines closed, yes but just a few weeks ago, before the change of government, Canadian asbestos was clean, now a few days later it is dangerous like in Europe, while Canadians shouted at conspiracy and protectionism, good faith when you hold us!
Yes the statistics per capita is more revealing, it is not because we have a huge territory that we must allow everything, it's like for the oceans they are vast everyone puts his shit on see the result.
So your bituminous oils are my children who will sniffer!
Explain me since you are so advanced some small points
1. Canada's relinquishment of the Kyoto targets for the 2012 year and their postponement to 2050! ;
2. the cancellation of the 10 $ billion budget for Canada's plan to fight climate change;
3. the extension of the tax break granted to developers of the bituminous industry;
4. the abolition of the Credit for Wind Power Encouragement in the "Federal Green Plan";
5. The refusal to validate Quebec's "green plan" (including the transfer of $ 328 $), while at the same time releasing significant funds to support Ontario in its "smog reduction program". It is true that Quebec's green plan is focused on renewable energies and that Ontario (without any integrated green plan) is always more and more thirsty for Alberta oil!
6. Nothing to do but still the seal hunt.
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http://www.philippeservices.net/
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Hello
Amen ... everything has been said. You are the best, the cleanest, bravo continue ..
I live in Quebec, Canada is big and the little guy like me in his village does not have much influence on the tar sands or what is happening in Vancouver.
Do you live in France or in Europe?
If we start to peel everything that is going on in Europe, I will stop at Russia, we could also find ..
Do you think that for asbestos you teach us something I could count all my workmates who worked only a few years in their youth, in mine asbestos and died before 60 years.
On this post we talk about construction of house with wooden frame and insulation of materials. On this subject people who live in Nordic countries Norway, Sweden, Canada we have several years of advances, than those who live at the edge of the Mediterranean.
If you want to talk about living environment, country, pollution, peach seal, craft specific posts, but talk about something you know you live in your community.
Now that you have no more dedelco to pick you up I do not know what? does it seem like you miss those little gueguerre?
I let myself be driven off topic yet I told myself not to answer some active participant who spends their night on the forum which one of them to throw spades to answer beside the questions posed.
As you are not interested in the construction mode that is done elsewhere, no need to worry about answering this post ..
Andre
Amen ... everything has been said. You are the best, the cleanest, bravo continue ..
I live in Quebec, Canada is big and the little guy like me in his village does not have much influence on the tar sands or what is happening in Vancouver.
Do you live in France or in Europe?
If we start to peel everything that is going on in Europe, I will stop at Russia, we could also find ..
Do you think that for asbestos you teach us something I could count all my workmates who worked only a few years in their youth, in mine asbestos and died before 60 years.
On this post we talk about construction of house with wooden frame and insulation of materials. On this subject people who live in Nordic countries Norway, Sweden, Canada we have several years of advances, than those who live at the edge of the Mediterranean.
If you want to talk about living environment, country, pollution, peach seal, craft specific posts, but talk about something you know you live in your community.
Now that you have no more dedelco to pick you up I do not know what? does it seem like you miss those little gueguerre?
I let myself be driven off topic yet I told myself not to answer some active participant who spends their night on the forum which one of them to throw spades to answer beside the questions posed.
As you are not interested in the construction mode that is done elsewhere, no need to worry about answering this post ..
Andre
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phil12 wrote:Alain G wrote:
The French study confirms what Canadians have developed to counter the climate and I am satisfied that they have copied the whole concept proving the quality of our buildings!
Not really this study is trying to enhance the low end French! For it to comply with the minimum required in 2 months namely the RT2012
Which seems to be the must at home.
Otherwise here we are passive MOB or BBC, fermacell, permeable wall, bio-sourced materials, double flow, climatic wells.
Knowing well Canada and Quebec (half of my family lives in Mont and Vancouvert) I have rather met glass wool, polytructs of all kinds, plastocs cladding, modes of heating antediluvients, open fireplaces Pulsed heating (to the point that the city of Montreal prohibits outdated wood stoves).
Yes, energy is not expensive at home! (but it pollutes)
Canada is still the largest producer of asbestos, and the second largest polluter of the OECD per capita, fortunately there are the states, calice cyboire!
Ps: Not to mention the M ..... bait!
We will not start to quarrel!
You're going a bit hard!
Here we are, the MOB exists in the low-end house for a long time while at home it's upscale, the Fermacell also exists here but is better suited to the old house not isolated for renovation and necessarily sells better in your home, the permeable wall has existed for at least 35 years here, on the bio-sourced materials I grant you but to what percentage of residence ???, the double flow and the geothermal heat pump have been for a long time my dear cousin and well before you and for the well climatic well it's a little too cold here to work.
On the woodstoves, we are well ahead and if you can find on the site why you will find, however, your condensing heating systems are unfortunately starting to end up here, for the forced air system which in my opinion is the best and most comfortable while filtering the air, besides I warm with this system (electric) for almost 20 years in 2 houses and I would not change for another way to heat!
It's not just plastic here it's rather reserved for low-end and if you leave the old Montreal you'll see that many new construction includes brick or stone!
For the rest of your comment that resembles a little revenge ben I could talk about your nuke plants much worse than the oil sand and asbestos for them are easy to eliminate what is not the case of nuke waste!
There is good good in Europe and there is also here, just admit what is good and make it cross the continent so that nature takes a little place!
Last edited by Alain G the 22 / 11 / 12, 17: 35, 1 edited once.
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Stepping behind sometimes can strengthen friendship.
Criticism is good if added to some compliments.
Alain
Criticism is good if added to some compliments.
Alain
Phil
Here we are in Quebec and we did not elect this Harper government and if you look good you will see that we are doing a lot in terms of green in all directions!
I do not see why you tease us on topics of the past when all is not green at home!
If there were tar sands in France do not you think your government would not have exploited it?
I am disappointed to see a thermal specialist unable to admit that we are ahead of the thermal insulation and it leaves me a little pensive about your skills, certainly at home you must be at home but must also see what has been done elsewhere!
No hard feelings!
Here we are in Quebec and we did not elect this Harper government and if you look good you will see that we are doing a lot in terms of green in all directions!
I do not see why you tease us on topics of the past when all is not green at home!
If there were tar sands in France do not you think your government would not have exploited it?
I am disappointed to see a thermal specialist unable to admit that we are ahead of the thermal insulation and it leaves me a little pensive about your skills, certainly at home you must be at home but must also see what has been done elsewhere!
No hard feelings!
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Stepping behind sometimes can strengthen friendship.
Criticism is good if added to some compliments.
Alain
Criticism is good if added to some compliments.
Alain
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