Willy FURTER Constructions

[chatelot16]

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[Willy FURTER]

This is actually the combination of MRI and air chambers, unventilated, enabling effective thermal insulation. I experienced the first home prototype.
Regarding the 2cm thickness of the air space, I have doubts about this value because, having had the opportunity to punch the wall of a building dating from 1743, 80cm thick, so to install a window, I could see that between the outer wall and the inner wall, there was a blade of air about 10cm thick, only thermal insulation apart from the thickness of the stones.
Some logs in the stove was enough to ensure a pleasant heating. In summer, the coolness was appreciated.
The inertia of this type of construction, actively participating to damp thermal shock.
It is the disappearance of this inertia, with thermal insulation offered in passive houses, which is a problem because everything is in the air treatment habitat.

[chatelot16]

the you completely contradicts your project with lightweight materials

I appreciate the old thick stone wall that I have in the house where I live ... 1800 built without insulation ... wood heated and quite economical because I'm just a fairly low temperature

the quality of the old house is that it is healthy even if some heats ... unlike the modern home that become unhealthy if not hot enough

insulation from inside with glass wool and plasterboard is a calamity that many rotten housing

[Willy FURTER]

Hello chatelot16
I do not see how I contradict my project, because everything starts with a steel frame, which is not a light material.
This skeleton, ensuring the rigidity of the construction, is then wrapped in a "condom" made of IMR.
It will thus be preserved:
- moisture and air salinity, inside and outside;
- thermal shock, thereby avoiding the expansion and withdrawal of the metal.
So there will be, in this skeleton, a non-ventilated area, constituting a thermal mattress.
Then come the outer and inner skins, with their very own thermal mattress, whatever the nature and lightweight materials.

[Remundo]

Hello Mr. FURTER,

I guess you careful not to establish thermal bridges.

You report having already built a house-witness. Do you have photos of the site and the elements implemented?

Sincerely,

[Willy FURTER]

Hello Remundo
thermal bridges do not exist because the "condom" prevents them.
I of course, lots of pictures of the first house but their distribution on the net is not authorized by Patrick BOURDONCLE.
I am sorry for that.

[Remundo]

merci,

But it's a shame not to have those photos.

[chatelot16]

I struggle to believe that the steel structure can reduce the price of a house, especially self build

to me most economical and effective carrier is the cinderblock wall and the insulation wool wooden exterior glass and film

the bearing wall give solid wall less brittle than the dismal dubbing plasterboard, which are damaging to each demenagement

coating has the easiest lime achieve without experience as plaster

can be compared to that too high a price for some pro industrialized building a building can have advantages, but it would make this industrial house in very large series ... that much remains to self building I do not see not interest

in the industrialized style there was the phoenix house, with steel framing, steel window, at a time when all the windows were wood: I know 2 Phenix house near my home: it revellent durable good, provided iron window is painted from time to time

[Willy FURTER]

For T4 m90 of 2, 3500 kg of steel enough. The price of steel fall. I made my predictions with a price of € 1 kg, it is currently 80cts. making a metal frame for € 2800 more labor. If it is known to 2h to 2 people to make the connection with the amounts constituting a wall length 12m, walls therefore cost (50 / 2 hx) x = 2 200 4murs € x = € 800 + = 2800 3600 € Voilà prices in the industry. Compare them with those of the building. It must be added, of course, the inner and outer skins with insulation. Designed in workshop, the walls of a constant humidity and optimal conditions for their production, warm and dry.

[Obamot]

1) it is not the walls which determine the hygrometry but the Ƽ at the origin of the dew point + the quantity of water naturally present in the air, to varying degrees depending on the conditions + the atmospheric pressure, etc. And whatever the material used, light to heavy, example:
- the mist that forms on the windows of a car in winter when the occupants are in the passenger compartment (heavy density glass);
- the very cold water bottle that is out of the fridge and sees form millions of condensation of bubbles on its surface (plastic low density);

With the only difference that more contact / exchange material is heavier, the equation is unfavorable!

In your case, this is the worst scenario, since you have a heavy material attached to an ultra light and an enormous Ƽ on a very thin thickness (where the calories do not require better than being able to escape), which will make everything behave (by analogy) a bit like when we see the gas bubbles stir when the water boils in a saucepan. Your "thermal system" remains stable as long as the environment is stable, as soon as you start to move +/- the pressure, +/- the hygrometry of the air and +/- the temperature with phase shift between materials, you will see the bazaar! This is inevitable or else it takes substantial thicknesses of insulation if at all to avoid transfers, at least to cushion them!

2) sorry to say, but we are facing a stubborn rarely seen here. Only Simplino could subdue you?

Hello Remundo
thermal bridges do not exist because the "condom" prevents them.
I of course, lots of pictures of the first house but their distribution on the net is not authorized by Patrick BOURDONCLE.
I am sorry for that.

Another beautiful sentence which "sounds good" but which does not mean anything!

The "condom" prevents thermal bridges subsideBecause you can not say they do not exist, as long as they are at the very root of your concept: fundamental error in your patent, explained here in this post:

[with] ITE / ITI double insulation. The builder (Willy FURTER) thus ensures - without really realizing it - that his metal profiles (of the frame of the house) that he is going to dress with thin reflective insulation, will immediately manufacture bridges thermals which are among the worst to eliminate (when it would be so easy to avoid that from the start) and moreover he will put a thin insulation there which not-only has a tiny coefficient, but which will prevent them cannot "heat up" in order to try to make the temperature of the materials of the structure converge towards the "equilibrium temperature" of the habitat! (Which therefore removes any chance of achieving this since the little insulation prevents it!)

We really there facing one of the worst scenarios to make way Frankenstein nightmares for any builder !!!

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So your patent is of no use to you - as it is - you can rest assured, no one will dispute it.