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by elephant » 08/06/09, 18:00

strategy:

1) "maintain" this subject so that it is seen by as many people as possible. Dear readers, don't let us mess around at 3 or 4, please.
2) go see if there are other forums "seniors" who talk about the subject
3) in Belgium there is a magazine (Plus ???) for our age group. try to meet one of their reporter
4) as soon as we are 4 or 5, we can maybe get together.
5) do not forget that it can also interest young people.

The rest belong to the different protagonists.
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by Did67 » 08/06/09, 18:12

Curious, an idea that is also on my mind, with my wife ...

We started off with the general idea of ​​degrowth. Indeed, living with very little (even if it means investing what we currently have: a "fairly normal" house for sale) ... Go to a quiet corner, where the land is not too expensive ... Passive houses: comfort - I have become very cautious - but inexpensive because "passive" because pooling of lots of equipment: large household appliances, a greenhouse - workshop (I am a fan of bonsai), one or two rooms to welcome friends ( why have everyone their own ... ???) ...

The thorny question: it's a question of personal affinities, and how to "test" personal affinity ????
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by elephant » 08/06/09, 18:24

This is exactly what I was saying: that is the whole challenge, but, in fact, if life had placed us in the same place, we would still have had to "deal with".
The risks are there, I know something about it, my father, a brilliant engineer, had contracted Alzheimer's: I had come to hate him.
But, there is more in two heads than in one (this is why the police have a horse :D ), I think we need pioneers and laboratories.
I still think that diversity and complementarity are drivers. And just because you criticize people doesn't mean you don't like them. ( Finally, I hope )

and..
it is not necessary to hope to undertake ... :D
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by the middle » 08/06/09, 18:30

:D and you also need a large workshop to tinker!
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by elephant » 08/06/09, 18:56

certainly ! But you have to put away your toys when you're done playing :D
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by elephant » 09/06/09, 08:57

In fact, I think the problem is not simple, especially with older people who all have their "favorite themes". When I see the mess of recurring and accessory questions at the meeting of the co-owners of the step-mom's building (profile: over 65, "goods in their little papers")
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by the middle » 09/06/09, 09:00

It's even a huge job, and one that must be prepared in advance.
You have to find examples, and get informed.
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by Former Oceano » 09/06/09, 14:35

Another case also concerns single-parent families where the problems are cumulative.
Such a community of life, or "symbiocity", would allow a single father or a single mother to have elders (I prefer this term to that of old people or elderly people because it gives them back a value and recognition) to keep and helping their child when he or she is at work.
This also allows the transfer of know-how, gardening, DIY, the fact that certain paying services can be done in the community (rather than paying a caterer, why not ask a friend who loves cooking to prepare a meal for the evening, etc ...)
Add to this an ecological dimension, such as lagooning, anaerobic digestion, passive houses, local energy production (wind, solar).
In addition, the fact of having people sharing the same desire for mutual aid makes it possible to resolve a lot of difficulties.

The hardest part to find is the site and the financial side. This should be set up as a business project by estimating the investments, operating costs, and the contributions of the potential inhabitants of the community.
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by Did67 » 09/06/09, 18:56

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The hardest part to find is the site and the financial side. This should be set up as a business project by estimating the investments, operating costs, and the contributions of the potential inhabitants of the community.


The site, I don't think!

But the "legal arrangement" is clear. The "financial" side is only part of it; it is, for me, only the tip of the iceberg.

Even with the best friends in the world, and a fortiori with people I know less, I do not put € 200 on the table like that, without knowing what it will become IF ... IF one day everyone m 'piss and I want to take off. If one day I need long care and I have to realize a part of my capital. IF, lucid, one day I decide to go away from the other side of the mirror like a big ...

That said, there is expertise in the Nordic and German / Swiss countries where experiments have been carried out ...
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by elephant » 09/06/09, 20:37

Ex océano said:

symbiosis


I was going to say "drop off!", but you're not the first, too bad, nice word.
I really liked your post. There are really things to do between people of good will.

In terms of the legal structure, there is indeed a lot to say. In fact, I would see an SA (public limited company) which would reassure bankers. The field is very complex. Summer is coming, we have to meet.

That said, I thought about it on the road it is not gangne ​​in advance. Just on food, for example me, I would say: vegetable garden, OK, but organic at all costs, you dream, it's too expensive. I'm sure many of you don't think like me. How to find common ground?
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