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by Christophe » 29/04/09, 21:29

Tomorrow promised if it's done and if I find the time to collect the part!

Otherwise Friday!
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by Christophe » 02/05/09, 14:34

Here are the pictures:

The freshly machined cone (hard to see on the photo but it is a cone) for 20 €:
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White Mount" :
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Tightening nut against nut (as the cone is not very "long" I think that a against nut will not be superfluous):
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Security washer nut:
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Everything is already assembled but I'm waiting to see what it looks like in the water.

The alignment (plan) crown gear a little boring to do but it should be fine. I put everything on threaded rods with nut against nut so easy and fairly precise settings.

General Tigger will drop by to do a general inspection this afternoon! I don't even know if we can get the bevel gear out without extractor :) When I pressed (fully) it moved 3 to 4mm!
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by Christophe » 04/05/09, 10:20

So Maloche? No reaction on the cone?

Well, I have not been idle this weend: everything is "assembled" (we shit with Christine to couple the drum to the cage with the unbalance represented by the alternator).

a) Boat on land, 3rd float mounted and pre-assembled and pre-set alternator ("alignment" crown pinion):

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b) "Assembly". Explanations: the alternator is fixed by 2 threaded rods of 8mm right through.

The upper rod also has a function of tensioner (or rather adjustment of the tension) of the chain. The lower rod is therefore a kind of pivot, but in operation everything is "fixed".

All the nuts are doubled (vibrations) + anti-loosening washers or nylstop nut. This allows, moreover, a "precise" adjustment (jme understand) of the alignment of the crown pinion planes ...

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c) Detail of the gable (check the alignment of the 2 planes):

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d) "oblong" chain adjustment hole (without the chain tensioner for the moment):

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e) Chain "tensioner" (a simple 8 mm threaded rod with a nut / lock nut system which passes through the cage):

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You notice that some operating games are weak! Hey that's what it means to be a good engineer : Mrgreen: we will see how long it takes before tightening ...

f) "Final" position: the voltage regulator is fixed to the cage, the alignment is adjusted.

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We put in the water this AM or tomorrow ... I hope it will not sink : Cheesy:
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by Capt_Maloche » 04/05/09, 10:37

AH yes, it's clean!

Missing more than the cable gland at the motor cables passage :D

You make us languish there, so it still floats? Image
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by yanyan26 » 04/05/09, 11:00

Hello

Very nice achievement Christophe.
This proves that some engineers : Mrgreen: also know how to use their hands.
Is your paddle wheel not too braked by your multiplier gears when you turn it by hand because on the wind turbine I am trying to make (multiplier of 30) it is hard

Good luck for your tests
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by Christophe » 04/05/09, 12:19

Thank you for the encouragements!

Not yet in the Maloche fleet! This AM if I have time ... once it's in the fleet it will be boring to get it out again so no rush! Already without the transmission I had already hurt myself the other time ... For the "plugging" of the various holes is planned.

Yanyan, yes we can feel the couple "empty", it comes from 2 factors:

- no-load torque of the alternator (1 per pole) since the excitation is permanent (unlike the alternator) and the regulator is already connected.

- couple "in" the chain.

I am unable to determine what is the% of each of these couples. But we feel the difference depending on the tension of the chain, I think I have adjusted the tension neither too loose nor too strong. Difficult to do over such a short chain distance.

For more details, I will make a no-load torque measurement this AM.
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by Flytox » 04/05/09, 12:31

Hello yanyan26
yanyan26 wrote:This proves that some engineers : Mrgreen: also know how to use their hands.


Yes, well done Christoph, and yanyan26 you will notice, proof to support, that our favorite Webmunster does not have two left hands.

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In fact, it is well protected the "alternator" / reduction assembly in the drum and it should make use of. 8)
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by Christophe » 04/05/09, 13:48

Hihihhihi Flytox! I have 2 right thumbs now, I find it hard to hit the forums, it's smart !! : Mrgreen:

Yes for protection, that's why I liked the idea of ​​using the cage (tank) and that I wanted to keep it. There are some holes to plug but it will be really easy! I do not know if I said it but I kept the original seal on the drum cage ... which allows a good seal at the water level!

Yanyan, I just measured the "empty torque" it is about 950 grams at 26 cm!

Or a "starting torque" of 0.95 * 0.26 = 0.25 daN.m

As a reminder, in this configuration of blades ("small and flat") and flow, I had measured an engine torque "in water" of 6.5 kg at 26 cm in radius, ie more than 6 times more.

1/6 of the torque at 0 RPM will therefore be "absorbed" by the transmission and the "internal friction" of the alternator (including the regulator). It's a lot but not too much of a choice ...

A priori we will therefore have a "useful" engine torque in the range of 5.5 * 0.26 = 1.4 daNm ... to see the RPM ... and the efficiency of the generator ...

In short: what matters is what we manage to produce! Answer in a few days... :?:

ps: what worries me (a little) question reliability is the few teeth "working" on the pinion but I didn't have too many other possibilities there ... On the other hand this pinion is made for a mob, which can develop 5 to 10 hp. I presume there is a coef. safety of at least 2 or 20 hp ... and therefore a much larger torque than I would ever have with about 0.5 hp ...

We will see with use!
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by the middle » 04/05/09, 14:34

: Cheesy: But that it is c .. this Flytox sometimes, : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
Ha! I had a good laugh.
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It's Fly's fault :? :D
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by Christophe » 04/05/09, 15:06

Ah it will be paid at the end of the month : Cheesy:

Well, that's not all, but I have a boat to sink there! : Mrgreen:
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