Steam Engine Plasma

Tips, advice and tips to lower your consumption, processes or inventions as unconventional engines: the Stirling engine, for example. Patents improving combustion: water injection plasma treatment, ionization of the fuel or oxidizer.
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by nlc » 25/11/05, 21:58

I quickly looked at your link.
It doesn't seem to be the same principle. On your link, it seems to be a mechanical modification to be able to use hydrogen as fuel on a conventional engine. The hydrogen is then brought into the cylinder by a special candle which acts as an injector.
But therefore hydrogen must be produced upstream.

The assembly that sdc offers us is even simpler, we just replace the fuel in the tank with water, we don't even modify the spark plug, but just the ignition system!

It still leaves me skeptical but good, but I'm like ANdré, it does not prevent me from being interested in the thing, unlike some who say that it is impossible and who do not look further than the end of their noses.
Especially since on the net, we manage to find handymen who manage to blow up the water, and build "water guns".

To return to the editing proposed by sdc, I have not yet looked seriously at the thing. Because I am preparing everything, tomorrow with a friend we will do experiments on the frequency and / or high voltage electrolysis of water.

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by Other » 26/11/05, 01:00

Hello
Regarding the electronic circuit I would say rather electrical
it is by far people initiated in the field who designed this circuit, it could work with a few diodes less
the mass file on the candle, I do not see the usefulness unless I have translated badly (in Quebec we are not all skilled in the language
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They delayed the ignition, as if it was lighting too suddenly.
In summary it is enough to put 1 to 2 kw on the spark plug at the time of the spark during the descent phase of the piston 30 degrees after compression.
the inverter, it is so that the AC current is cut when it passes through the zero point because if we fed rectified DC after having initiated a spark the arc would remain lit the candle would melt.
So the discharge takes half a cycle for 60hz it becomes easy to calculate the energy submitted on the candle.
It would be easier to do with a relay (CRYDOM) it would be worth trying it on a petrol engine just to see the resistance of the spark plug.
My little experimental engine works with a 30% alcohol / water mixture easily, then it gets complicated at 40% it's not long that the rpm drop, the temperature too and it stops running, we'll see if this ignition would allow me to increase the water.

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by Misterloxo » 01/12/05, 20:55

Nothing new here : Cry:
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by Sdc77 » 01/12/05, 21:18

Yes as you say : Cry: the subject does not seem to unleash passions, however if it works it is THE simplest water engine solution to implement and the most easily usable in a car.
I am currently translating the document called benchmarks.doc, if there are angry with English, it may give them more desire to discover the system.

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by rpsantina » 01/12/05, 21:34

:?

Not finished digging up,

if not, I have an R5 which will pass soon ...

I think to use the "S1R-Terro" system
It is by far the simplest

What do you use as "inverter" ???
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by Misterloxo » 01/12/05, 22:33

In any case, I admire your motivation sdc; frequency electrolyser, plasma engine ...

Keep on the good work...
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by Sdc77 » 01/12/05, 22:35

Something to watch out for, Terro has already done a lot of experiments, but from the outset, they tried to simplify or modify the schematics of sir9! result so far there is nothing that works! He certainly manages to make a plasma triggered by the HT arc, but he cannot make a motor run in water. Then terro must be in the corner, it uses a 12-220v power supply except sir9 speaks of 12-110v (US standard). So it is true that a power supply of 400w 12-220 and 12-110 ba it makes the same power but we also know that some effects are due to the HT and others to the intensity: ex: electrolys DC, only the intensity counts (U> 1,24v anyway); a candle arc will not work in 12V, you need HT ... in short, before trying to modify or simplify, why not start directly from the initial diagrams?

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by Misterloxo » 01/12/05, 22:53

rpsantina wrote::?

Not finished digging up,

if not, I have an R5 which will pass soon ...

I think to use the "S1R-Terro" system
It is by far the simplest

What do you use as "inverter" ???




You mean that you are going to adapt this system on your R5 ...


S1R-Terro? Kesako? I haven't even seen that in the doc .... : roll:
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by Misterloxo » 01/12/05, 22:57

MisterLoXo wrote:
S1R-Terro? Kesako? I haven't even seen that in the doc .... : roll:



ok i got it ... : Shock:
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by rpsantina » 02/12/05, 16:43

Sdc77 wrote:Something to watch out for, Terro has already done a lot of experiments, but from the outset, they tried to simplify or modify the schematics of sir9! result so far there is nothing that works! He certainly manages to make a plasma triggered by the HT arc, but he cannot make a motor run in water. Then terro must be in the corner, it uses a 12-220v power supply except sir9 speaks of 12-110v (US standard). So it is true that a power supply of 400w 12-220 and 12-110 ba it makes the same power but we also know that some effects are due to the HT and others to the intensity: ex: electrolys DC, only the intensity counts (U> 1,24v anyway); a candle arc will not work in 12V, you need HT ... in short, before trying to modify or simplify, why not start directly from the initial diagrams?

Ndc.


Well my problem is this mess of multivibrator relay ...
I don't see where to find it in France :?, but I'm interested ...
Otherwise, the first work on its wiring is to take it back so that it becomes readable ... too many unnecessary crossovers ...
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